Hello List
It appears that there are TWO sets of FOGRA
Characterization Data in existence.
I tried to post a message with the files attached
but Is being held until the list moderator can
review it for approval, because the message body
is too big.
So instead I have taken a snippet.
If you would like to email me I will send you the
files.
Please look at attached data.
Notice in the Descriptor the older file is 15L.
The newer file is 15.
Look at the file properties as well.
The puzzling thing is:
If it was measured again, why does it contain the
same header info?
It must have been a cut and paste rather than new
measuring.
This goes against all the principles of ICC.
I would not have expected this from FOGRA.
I think we need a statement from FOGRA to clarify
the situation and explain why it contains the same
header info.
Best regards
Nick
ECI2002
ORIGINATOR "FOGRA,
www.fogra.org"
DESCRIPTOR "FOGRA15"
CREATED "August 2002"
INSTRUMENTATION "GRETAGMACBETH SpectroChart and
SpectroScan, D50, 2 degree, geometry 45/0, no
polarisation filter, black backing"
MEASUREMENT_SOURCE "GAS-FILLED TUNGSTEN"
PRINT_CONDITIONS "Offset printing, according to
proposed revision ISO 12647-2:2002+, OFCOM,
positive plates, screen 60/cm, paper surface type
1 or 2 = coated art, but 170 g/m2, see readme"
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 11
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID CMYK_C CMYK_M CMYK_Y CMYK_K XYZ_X XYZ_Y
XYZ_Z LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 1485
BEGIN_DATA
1 0 0 0 0 85.32 88.27
73.43 95.28 0.39 -0.54
2 0 10 0 0 78.15 78.53
66.70 91.02 4.88 -1.81
3 0 20 0 0 71.76 69.50
60.45 86.75 10.22 -3.16
4 0 30 0 0 65.68 60.55
54.04 82.13 16.95 -4.50
5 0 40 0 0 59.90 52.13
47.62 77.36 24.23 -5.57
6 0 55 0 0 51.70 40.54
37.99 69.85 36.13 -6.42
7 0 70 0 0 44.54 30.79
29.18 62.33 48.87 -6.38
8 0 85 0 0 38.36 22.95
21.68 55.02 61.60 -5.66
9 0 100 0 0 33.56 17.41
16.20 48.77 72.53 -4.57
10 10 0 0 0 75.78 79.77
70.24 91.58 -2.29 -4.08
11 10 10 0 0 71.05 72.66
65.26 88.29 2.11 -5.17
12 10 20 0 0 65.51 64.60
59.35 84.27 7.35 -6.33
13 10 30 0 0 59.79 56.14
52.98 79.69 13.91 -7.56
14 10 40 0 0 54.52 48.32
46.79 75.03 21.10 -8.61
15 10 55 0 0 46.98 37.47
37.39 67.63 32.97 -9.44
16 10 70 0 0 40.36 28.32
28.68 60.18 45.66 -9.29
17 10 85 0 0 34.66 20.98
21.37 52.93 58.40 -8.64
18 10 100 0 0 30.28 15.81
16.03 46.73 69.47 -7.69
19 20 0 0 0 66.92 71.97
67.65 87.95 -5.38 -7.97
20 20 10 0 0 63.03 65.86
63.23 84.93 -1.10 -9.02
__________________________________________________
__________________________
ECI2002
ORIGINATOR "FOGRA,
www.fogra.org"
DESCRIPTOR "FOGRA15L"
CREATED "August 2002"
INSTRUMENTATION "GRETAGMACBETH SpectroChart and
SpectroScan, D50, 2 degree, geometry 45/0, no
polarisation filter, black backing"
MEASUREMENT_SOURCE "GAS-FILLED TUNGSTEN""
PRINT_CONDITIONS "Offset printing, tone values
according to ISO/CD 12647-2, positive plates,
screen 60/cm, paper type 1a or 2a = coated art 170
g/m2, see readme"
NUMBER_OF_FIELDS 11
BEGIN_DATA_FORMAT
SAMPLE_ID CMYK_C CMYK_M CMYK_Y CMYK_K XYZ_X XYZ_Y
XYZ_Z LAB_L LAB_A LAB_B
END_DATA_FORMAT
NUMBER_OF_SETS 1485
BEGIN_DATA
1 0 0 0 0 85.62 88.52 73.5 95.38 0.50 -0.42
2 0 10 0 0 76.49 76.25 65.12 89.98 6.07 -2.13
3 0 20 0 0 69.86 66.79 58.55 85.40 12.02 -3.58
4 0 30 0 0 64.4 58.69 52.68 81.12 18.44 -4.78
5 0 40 0 0 59.06 50.92 46.68 76.63 25.36 -5.72
6 0 55 0 0 51.35 40.01 37.54 69.48 36.85 -6.46
7 0 70 0 0 44.55 30.81 29.17 62.35 48.84 -6.35
8 0 85 0 0 38.68 23.35 22.02 55.43 60.87 -5.62
9 0 100 0 0 33.61 17.43 16.22 48.80 72.59 -4.58
10 10 0 0 0 73.15 77.41 69.31 90.51 -3.07 -5.09
11 10 10 0 0 68.01 69.38 63.61 86.69 2.44 -6.35
12 10 20 0 0 62.01 60.71 57.19 82.22 8.21 -7.66
13 10 30 0 0 57.09 53.3 51.46 78.05 14.46 -8.73
14 10 40 0 0 52.28 46.17 45.61 73.66 21.27 -9.57
15 10 55 0 0 45.32 36.12 36.72 66.61 32.67 -10.28
16 10 70 0 0 39.17 27.63 28.58 59.55 44.65 -10.21
17 10 85 0 0 33.87 20.76 21.63 52.69 56.73 -9.59
18 10 100 0 0 29.3 15.32 15.98 46.07 68.61 -8.71
19 20 0 0 0 63.66 69.08 66.83 86.54 -6.62 -9.65
20 20 10 0 0 59.11 61.87 61.32 82.84 -1.30 -10.75