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Re: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished.

by Axel Robert

Hi Juergen, I’m already aware these modifications. But nevertheless, thank you for sharing your explanations. The images are very instructive indeed. I also prepared some images using the Roman16 too and I noticed there had no big issues between F51 and F49. But as you wisely mentioned, it could be problematic with the paper tint and the curves differences… So, I need to be sure to apply the proper strategy. I don’t want to send an incorrect CYK separation to obtain a final printed job that could be worth than without this adaptation. ☺ Axel From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of Juergen Seitz <Juergen.Seitz(a)gmgcolor.com> Reply-To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Date: lundi 6 février 2017 14:16 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished. Hi Axel, several changes happened: -since F51 all reference values are described in M1. -since F51 the updated ISO12647-2:2013 rules (e.g. new TVI curves) for the process description (and the resulting characterization data) is used. F49 and F50 are describing laminated Offset prints based on the legacy ISO rules, so they are M0 and the underlying TVI curves are slightly different, just like if you start with F39 and do your lamination on it . Besides of the many other reference printing conditions, these 2 references for a perfect prediction of laminated F51-products are on the long list. But: I think that you can still use F49 and F50 to get an estimate of a laminated product, even in front of a F51 production. Maybe after a compensation of the F49 or F50 to the right whitepoint? The major difference would then just be the changed TVI. If you compare the variance, you might consider to keep going with F49/50 for the time being. Have a look at some samples comparing F39, 49, 50 and 51: https://owncloud.gmgcolor.com/owncloud/index.php/s/hRKXdaBdgGjPk23 Based on some F39 data, without any change on the CMYK values, I have just created a preview on how these CMYK values would look like (in Lab), according the different char-datasets. Open the tifs in Photoshop and go through the 4 Layers on each sample. If you compare F39 to F51 you will see the most significant change from the papertint and in the quarter tones (have a look at the skintones) If you compare F39 to either F49 or F50, you can see this much more important impact. … so I think that even now, F49 and F50 are a good tool to be used, even in front of a F51 production. Cheers Juergen Von: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Axel Robert Gesendet: Montag, 6. Februar 2017 09:12 An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Betreff: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished. Priorität: Hoch Dear all, I would like to obtain more information about the following ICC profiles: PSO_Coated_v2_300_Glossy_laminate_eci.icc PSO_Coated_v2_300_Matte_laminate_eci.icc I partially switched from F39 to F51 and F47 to F52. But I still use the former (aka F49 and F50). Should I take into account they also will change since the new printing conditions? Are they still relevant? Or should they be adapted? And if so, when or how? Thank you for your answer. Regards. Axel Axel Robert | Prepress Manager Ubisoft EMEA |Manufacturing 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress

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Re: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished.

by Juergen Seitz

Hi Axel, several changes happened: -since F51 all reference values are described in M1. -since F51 the updated ISO12647-2:2013 rules (e.g. new TVI curves) for the process description (and the resulting characterization data) is used. F49 and F50 are describing laminated Offset prints based on the legacy ISO rules, so they are M0 and the underlying TVI curves are slightly different, just like if you start with F39 and do your lamination on it . Besides of the many other reference printing conditions, these 2 references for a perfect prediction of laminated F51-products are on the long list. But: I think that you can still use F49 and F50 to get an estimate of a laminated product, even in front of a F51 production. Maybe after a compensation of the F49 or F50 to the right whitepoint? The major difference would then just be the changed TVI. If you compare the variance, you might consider to keep going with F49/50 for the time being. Have a look at some samples comparing F39, 49, 50 and 51: https://owncloud.gmgcolor.com/owncloud/index.php/s/hRKXdaBdgGjPk23 Based on some F39 data, without any change on the CMYK values, I have just created a preview on how these CMYK values would look like (in Lab), according the different char-datasets. Open the tifs in Photoshop and go through the 4 Layers on each sample. If you compare F39 to F51 you will see the most significant change from the papertint and in the quarter tones (have a look at the skintones) If you compare F39 to either F49 or F50, you can see this much more important impact. ... so I think that even now, F49 and F50 are a good tool to be used, even in front of a F51 production. Cheers Juergen Von: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] Im Auftrag von Axel Robert Gesendet: Montag, 6. Februar 2017 09:12 An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Betreff: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished. Priorität: Hoch Dear all, I would like to obtain more information about the following ICC profiles: PSO_Coated_v2_300_Glossy_laminate_eci.icc PSO_Coated_v2_300_Matte_laminate_eci.icc I partially switched from F39 to F51 and F47 to F52. But I still use the former (aka F49 and F50). Should I take into account they also will change since the new printing conditions? Are they still relevant? Or should they be adapted? And if so, when or how? Thank you for your answer. Regards. Axel Axel Robert | Prepress Manager Ubisoft EMEA |Manufacturing 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress

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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1

by Paul Sherfield

Hi I have use the Fogra 39 surface finishing profiles with success for magazine covers, so would welcome similar profiles based on Fogra 51. Regards Paul Sherfield The Missing Horse Consultancy Ltd 07899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk Follow us on: Twitter.com/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert-Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) Chair - BPIF ISO 12647 certification steering group Member – UK TAG TC130 for ISO printing standards UK Representative-ISO TC130- WG13 for printing standards certification Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk http://www.keeconsultants.com Reduce your carbon footprint http://www.1010uk.org This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment. We do not accept liability for any such corruption, interception or amendment or the consequences thereof. We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -----Original Message----- From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of "eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com" <eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Reply-To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Date: Monday, 6 February 2017 at 10:48 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 78, Issue 1 >Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to > eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. eci offset profiles surface finished. (Axel Robert) > 2. Re: eci offset profiles surface finished. (Hanno Hoffstadt) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Mon, 6 Feb 2017 08:12:26 +0000 >From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com> >Subject: [ECI-EN] eci offset profiles surface finished. >To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com" > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> >Message-ID: <53041EC0-6198-4D73-93F8-75C0A6125A70(a)ubisoft.com> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Dear all, > >I would like to obtain more information about the following ICC profiles: >PSO_Coated_v2_300_Glossy_laminate_eci.icc >PSO_Coated_v2_300_Matte_laminate_eci.icc > >I partially switched from F39 to F51 and F47 to F52. >But I still use the former (aka F49 and F50). > >Should I take into account they also will change since the new printing >conditions? >Are they still relevant? >Or should they be adapted? >And if so, when or how? > >Thank you for your answer. > >Regards. >Axel > > >Axel Robert | Prepress Manager >Ubisoft EMEA |Manufacturing >28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France >Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress > > >

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eci offset profiles surface finished.

by Axel Robert

Dear all, I would like to obtain more information about the following ICC profiles: PSO_Coated_v2_300_Glossy_laminate_eci.icc PSO_Coated_v2_300_Matte_laminate_eci.icc I partially switched from F39 to F51 and F47 to F52. But I still use the former (aka F49 and F50). Should I take into account they also will change since the new printing conditions? Are they still relevant? Or should they be adapted? And if so, when or how? Thank you for your answer. Regards. Axel Axel Robert | Prepress Manager Ubisoft EMEA |Manufacturing 28, rue Armand Carrel | 93100 Montreuil | France Tel: +33(0)1 48 18 52 03 | Skype: axelprepress

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Re: [ECI-EN] web offset profiles for OBA paper

by Roger Breton

Guten fragen :) / Roger From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Per.Gysing(a)hm.com Sent: Monday, October 31, 2016 8:28 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Subject: [ECI-EN] web offset profiles for OBA paper Hi! I have a question, the new profiles Fogra 51 & Fogra 52 is for sheet feed offset on OBA paper. When is profiles for Weboffset on OBA paper going to be released, or is it already released? Bets /Per The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. Any unauthorized use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please reply to the sender and delete this message from your computer.

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web offset profiles for OBA paper

by Per.Gysing＠hm.com

Hi! I have a question, the new profiles Fogra 51 & Fogra 52 is for sheet feed offset on OBA paper. When is profiles for Weboffset on OBA paper going to be released, or is it already released? Bets /Per The information contained in this e-mail message may be privileged, confidential, and protected from disclosure. Any unauthorized use, printing, copying, disclosure or dissemination of this communication may be subject to legal restriction or sanction. If you think that you have received this e-mail message in error, please reply to the sender and delete this message from your computer.

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F51 and F52 printing.

by LYAUDET, Herve

*Hello everyone,* Can you help me : I don't know if i'm in the right place but I try to find a printing house able to print F51 and F52 (in France), maybe i can find it here ? *Best regards.* Hervé -- Je reste à votre disposition en cas de besoin. Cordialement. *Hervé Lyaudet * *Color and workflow manager* *ALTAVIA PARIS* Phone: 149488236 Cell: 627784753 www.altavia-group.com www.altaviawatch.com -- The information in this email and any attachments are the property of ALTAVIA or its affiliates and may contain proprietary and confidential information that is intended for the addressee(s) only. If you are not the intended recipient, please refrain from any disclosure, copying, distribution, retention or use of this information. You are hereby notified that such actions are prohibited and could be illegal. If you have received this e-mail in error, please immediately contact the sender and delete the e-mail. We appreciate your cooperation. Email transmissions being not guaranteed, ALTAVIA and its affiliates decline their liability due to this email transmission, specifically when altered, modified or falsified.Les informations contenues dans cet e-mail ainsi que les fichiers joints sont la propriété d’ALTAVIA et / ou ses filiales et peuvent être des informations confidentielles et privées qui sont adressées à l’attention de leur destinataire uniquement. Si vous n’êtes pas le destinataire du message merci de ne pas divulguer, copier, diffuser, conserver ou utiliser ces informations. Vous êtes par la présente notifié que ces agissements sont interdits et peuvent être illégaux. Si vous avez reçu cet e-mail par erreur, merci de prendre contact immédiatement avec l’expéditeur et de détruire cet e-mail. Nous vous remercions de votre coopération. La correspondance en ligne n’étant pas un moyen entièrement sécurisé, ALTAVIA et ses filiales déclinent toute responsabilité au titre de cette transmission, notamment si son contenu a été altéré, déformé ou falsifié

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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11

by Roger Breton

Hallo Mathias, Bite, send me you Macintosh CSF file at graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> . Ich bin on Windows 10. MfG / Roger From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 10:29 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 Hi, Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong at 'mawe(a)dgli.se' Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Från: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Paul Sherfield <paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk <mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 15:56 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 Hi Roger and Mark It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too Œjust in case¹ ;-) Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment. 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We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -----Original Message----- From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of "eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > Reply-To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Date: Tuesday, 16 August 2016 at 14:16 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 (Roger Breton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:05:20 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Message-ID: <022601d1f7be$d877c5b0$89675110$(a)videotron.ca <mailto:022601d1f7be$d877c5b0$89675110$@videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It should work, Mark. Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a CSF. / Roger From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:59 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Hi, Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there? A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + ICC-profile. Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress, Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Paul Sherfield <paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk <mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> <mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 12:09 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Hi Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb! So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different. Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair ? BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -----Original Message----- From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of "eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > Reply-To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Date: Tuesday, 16 August 2016 at 10:42 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Tobias Trofast) 2. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Axel Robert) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000 From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8(a)liu.se <mailto:A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8@liu.se> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well, If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size. The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i?s only a guess? Hello Adobe? Best regards Tobias Trofast Lecturer Graphic Production ITN SE-601 74 NORRK?PING Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96 Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2 Please visit us at < <http://www.liu.se> http://www.liu.se> <http://www.liu.se> www.liu.se < < <http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> On 15/08/16 12:59, "eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > wrote: Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Roger Breton) 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Message-ID: <01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only includes the ?name? of the profiles. Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. / Roger Breton From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 Hi Chris, I was curious on your mention that: ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you achive that? Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote: Hi! I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following error message: "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default values will be used instead." I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI)? I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? What created it (application and version)? If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.callassoftware.com/pipermail/eci-en/attachments/20160815/d8b0 62df/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200 From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com> <mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw(a)mail.gmail.com <mailto:CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw@mail.gmail.com> <mailto:CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw@mail.gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images. Kamil On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > wrote: > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only > includes the ?name? of the profiles. > > > > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. > > > > / Roger Breton > > > > From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias > Wessman > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM > To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > Hi Chris, > > I was curious on your mention that: > > > > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? > > > > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you > achive that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessman > > Tech Support Prepress > > > > > > Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy > <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 > Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded > > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following > > error message: > > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default > > values will be used instead." > > > > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but > > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings > > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. > > > > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem > > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. > > > > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to > > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? > > > > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency > > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make > > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get > > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated > > v2 300% (ECI)? > > > > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. > > > > > > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a > > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if > > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings > > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is > > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. > > > > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are > > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up > > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in > > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel > > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. > > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the > > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? > > What created it (application and version)? > > > > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the > > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this > > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think > > the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't > > really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. > > > > > > -- > > Chris Murphy > > _______________________________________________ > > ECI-EN mailing list > > ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ECI-EN mailing list > ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en End of ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000 From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com <mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com> <mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E(a)ubisoft.com <mailto:6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E@ubisoft.com> <mailto:6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E@ubisoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello all! I agree with Tobias. Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode. You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data in L*a*b* and XYZ. In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included? Axel Axel Robert | UBISOFT Prepress quality manager From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> > Reply-To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Date: lundi 15 ao?t 2016 13:16 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 Well, If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size. The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i?s only a guess? Hello Adobe? Best regards Tobias Trofast Lecturer Graphic Production ITN SE-601 74 NORRK?PING Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96 Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2 Please visit us at < <http://www.liu.se> http://www.liu.se> <http://www.liu.se> www.liu.se < < <http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> On 15/08/16 12:59, "eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com>" <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com>> wrote: Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoft ware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Roger Breton) 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca%3e> >> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> Message-ID: <01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0 $dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca <mailto:$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only includes the ?name? of the profiles. Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. / Roger Breton From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas software.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 Hi Chris, I was curious on your mention that: ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you achive that? Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote: Hi! I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following error message: "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default values will be used instead." I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI)? I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? What created it (application and version)? If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kamil On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca%3e> >> wrote: > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only > includes the ?name? of the profiles. > > > > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. > > > > / Roger Breton > > > > From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas software.com> > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias > Wessman > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM > To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > Hi Chris, > > I was curious on your mention that: > > > > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? > > > > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you > achive that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessman > > Tech Support Prepress > > > > > > Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy > <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com%3e> >> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >" > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 > Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com%3e> >> > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded > > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following > > error message: > > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default > > values will be used instead." > > > > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but > > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings > > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. > > > > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem > > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. > > > > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to > > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? > > > > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency > > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make > > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get > > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated > > v2 300% (ECI)? > > > > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. > > > > > > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a > > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if > > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings > > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is > > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. > > > > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are > > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up > > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in > > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel > > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. > > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the > > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? > > What created it (application and version)? > > > > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the > > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this > > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. 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Hi Works for both Mac and PC. The same .csf files can be used on both. Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. 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We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -----Original Message----- From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of "eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com" <eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Reply-To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Date: Tuesday, 16 August 2016 at 15:24 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 13 >Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to > eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >You can reach the person managing the list at > eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 (Matthias Wessman) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 14:28:34 +0000 >From: Matthias Wessman <mawe(a)dgli.se> >Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 >To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com" > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> >Message-ID: <D3D8EE9F.1F512%mawe(a)dgli.se> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >Hi, >Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it >is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the >software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work >unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread >initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong >at 'mawe(a)dgli.se' > > > >Matthias Wessman >Tech Support Prepress > >Fr?n: ><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Paul Sherfield ><paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk<mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk>> >Svara till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>" ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> >Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 15:56 >Till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>" ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> >?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 > >Hi Roger and Mark > >It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they >provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if >you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too >?just in case? ;-) > >Regards > >Paul Sherfield > > >Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: >Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 > >http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk > >http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse > >Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing >Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) >UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing >standards >Chair ? BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group > > > >Lean and green? >To save money and become a greener printer, see >http://www.greenprinter.co.uk > > >This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely >for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this >message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly >prohibited and may be unlawful. > >If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and >delete all copies from your system. 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We do not accept liability for any >action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information >contained within this email. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >-----Original Message----- >From: ><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com>> on behalf of >"eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.calla >ssoftware.com>" ><eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.calla >ssoftware.com>> >Reply-To: ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> >Date: Tuesday, 16 August 2016 at 14:16 >To: ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> >Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 > >Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to >eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > >To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit >http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to >eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas >software.com> > >You can reach the person managing the list at >eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoft >ware.com> > >When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific >than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." > > >Today's Topics: > > 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 (Roger Breton) > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > >Message: 1 >Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:05:20 -0400 >From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>> >Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 >To: ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> >Message-ID: ><022601d1f7be$d877c5b0$89675110$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:022601d1f7be$d877c5b0 >$89675110$(a)videotron.ca>> >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > >It should work, Mark. > > >Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a >CSF. > > >/ Roger > > >From: >eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas >software.com> >[mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias >Wessman >Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:59 AM >To: >eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> >Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 > > >Hi, > >Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the >profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise >there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there? > >A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + >ICC-profile. > > > >Matthias Wessman > >Tech Support Prepress, > > > > >Fr?n: ><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Paul >Sherfield <paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk<mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> ><mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> > >Svara till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > >Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 12:09 >Till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > >?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 > > >Hi > > >Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do > >with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the > >profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are > >around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb! > > >So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different. > > >Regards > > >Paul Sherfield > > > >Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: > >Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 > > >http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk > > >http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse > > >Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing > >Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) > >UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing > >standards > >Chair ? BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group > > > > >Lean and green? > >To save money and become a greener printer, see > >http://www.greenprinter.co.uk > > > >This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely > >for the use of addressee. 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Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Tobias Trofast) > > 2. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Axel Robert) > > > >---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > >Message: 1 > >Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000 > >From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> ><mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> > > >Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 > >To: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " > ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > >Message-ID: ><A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8(a)liu.se<mailto:A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1 >D-27AD2D67CCB8(a)liu.se>> > >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" > > >Well, > > >If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated > >v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up > >beeing different in file size. > >The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while > >WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that > >CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but > >i?s only a guess? > > >Hello Adobe? > > >Best regards > > >Tobias Trofast > >Lecturer Graphic Production > > > > >ITN > >SE-601 74 NORRK?PING > >Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96 > >Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2 > >Please visit us at <http://www.liu.se> www.liu.se < <http://www.liu.se/> >http://www.liu.se/> > > >On 15/08/16 12:59, >"eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of > >eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas >software.com> ><mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " > ><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of > >eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas >software.com> ><mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > wrote: > > > Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to > > >eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > > To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit > > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > > or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to > > >eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas >software.com> ><mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > > You can reach the person managing the list at > > >eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoft >ware.com> ><mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > > When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific > > than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." > > > > > > Today's Topics: > > > > 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > > 2015.4 (Roger Breton) > > 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > > 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak) > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > Message: 1 > > Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400 > > From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> ><mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > > > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and > > InDesign CC > >2015.4 > > To: ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > Message-ID: ><01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0 >$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca> ><mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> > > > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File > >only > > includes the ?name? of the profiles. > > > > > > > > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. > > > > > > > > / Roger Breton > > > > > > > > From: >eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas >software.com> ><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias > > Wessman > > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM > > To: >eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and > >InDesign CC > > 2015.4 > > > > > > > > Hi Chris, > > > > I was curious on your mention that: > > > > > > > > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? > > > > > > > > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can > >you > > achive that? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessman > > > > Tech Support Prepress > > > > > > > > > > > > Fr?n: ><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla >ssoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > > <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris > >Murphy > > <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> ><mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> ><mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > > > Svara till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " > ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 > > Till: >"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " > ><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign > >CC > > 2015.4 > > > > > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund > ><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> ><mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > > <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote: > > > > Hi! > > > > > > > > > > > > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have > >downloaded > > > > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the > >following > > > > error message: > > > > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. > >Default > > > > values will be used instead." > > > > > > > > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this > >file, but > > > > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour > >settings > > > > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. > > > > > > > > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no > >problem > > > > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. > > > > > > > > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has > >anything to > > > > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? > > > > > > > > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design > >agency > > > > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make > > > > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't > >get > > > > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO > >Coated > > > > v2 300% (ECI)? > > > > > > > > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. > > > > > > > > > > > > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a > > > > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if > > > > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings > > > > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is > > > > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. > > > > > > > > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are > > > > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up > > > > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in > > > > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel > > > > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. > > > > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the > > > > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? > > > > What created it (application and version)? > > > > > > > > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the > > > > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this > > > > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think > > > > the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't > > > > really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. > > > > > > > > > > > > -- > > > > Chris Murphy > > > > _______________________________________________ > > > > ECI-EN mailing list > > > > >ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> ><mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > ><mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > > > > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > > > > > > > >

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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11

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Hi, Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong at 'mawe(a)dgli.se' Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Från: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>> on behalf of Paul Sherfield <paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk<mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk>> Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 15:56 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11 Hi Roger and Mark It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too Œjust in case¹ ;-) Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. If you have received this message in error, please notify the sender and delete all copies from your system. Email may be susceptible to data corruption, interception and unauthorised amendment. 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Today's Topics: 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 (Roger Breton) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:05:20 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>> Message-ID: <022601d1f7be$d877c5b0$89675110$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:022601d1f7be$d877c5b0$89675110$@videotron.ca>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" It should work, Mark. Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a CSF. / Roger From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Tuesday, August 16, 2016 7:59 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Hi, Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there? A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + ICC-profile. Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress, Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Paul Sherfield <paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk<mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> <mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Datum: tisdag 16 augusti 2016 12:09 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Hi Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb! So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different. Regards Paul Sherfield Please note my mobile is now my main contact number: Mobile: + 44 7899 906385 http://www.missinghorsecons.co.uk http://twitter.com/#!/missinghorse Apple Solutions Expert - Print & Publishing Member - UK TC130 Technical Advisory Group (ISO 12647 Printing Standards) UK Expert: ISO TC130/Working Group 13 on certification of printing standards Chair ? BPIF UK ISO 12647 Certification Steering Group Lean and green? To save money and become a greener printer, see http://www.greenprinter.co.uk This email and any attachments may be confidential and are intended solely for the use of addressee. If you are not the intended recipient of this message, any disclosure, copying or other distribution is strictly prohibited and may be unlawful. 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We do not accept liability for any action or inaction by the recipient as a result of advice or information contained within this email. -----Original Message----- From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of "eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > Reply-To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Date: Tuesday, 16 August 2016 at 10:42 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5 Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Tobias Trofast) 2. Re: ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 (Axel Robert) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000 From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8(a)liu.se<mailto:A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8@liu.se>> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Well, If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size. The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i?s only a guess? Hello Adobe? Best regards Tobias Trofast Lecturer Graphic Production ITN SE-601 74 NORRK?PING Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96 Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2 Please visit us at <http://www.liu.se> www.liu.se < <http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> On 15/08/16 12:59, "eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> > wrote: Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Roger Breton) 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Message-ID: <01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only includes the ?name? of the profiles. Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. / Roger Breton From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 Hi Chris, I was curious on your mention that: ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you achive that? Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote: Hi! I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following error message: "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default values will be used instead." I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI)? I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? What created it (application and version)? If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... URL: http://lists.callassoftware.com/pipermail/eci-en/attachments/20160815/d8b0 62df/attachment-0001.html ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200 From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com<mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com> <mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw(a)mail.gmail.com<mailto:CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw@mail.gmail.com> <mailto:CAJ=Rhf1YzuKB52H1Z=80+WudX_TsGAivp9hbM+xxP6j+cbM7Uw@mail.gmail.com > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8 Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images. Kamil On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> > wrote: > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only > includes the ?name? of the profiles. > > > > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. > > > > / Roger Breton > > > > From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias > Wessman > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM > To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > Hi Chris, > > I was curious on your mention that: > > > > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? > > > > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you > achive that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessman > > Tech Support Prepress > > > > > > Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy > <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 > Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded > > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following > > error message: > > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default > > values will be used instead." > > > > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but > > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings > > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. > > > > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem > > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. > > > > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to > > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? > > > > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency > > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make > > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get > > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated > > v2 300% (ECI)? > > > > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. > > > > > > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a > > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if > > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings > > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is > > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. > > > > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are > > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up > > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in > > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel > > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. > > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the > > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? > > What created it (application and version)? > > > > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the > > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this > > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think > > the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't > > really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. > > > > > > -- > > Chris Murphy > > _______________________________________________ > > ECI-EN mailing list > > ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > > > > > _______________________________________________ > ECI-EN mailing list > ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> > http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > ------------------------------ _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en End of ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 ************************************* ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000 From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com<mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com> <mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E(a)ubisoft.com<mailto:6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E@ubisoft.com> <mailto:6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E@ubisoft.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello all! I agree with Tobias. Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode. You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data in L*a*b* and XYZ. In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included? Axel Axel Robert | UBISOFT Prepress quality manager From: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> > Reply-To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Date: lundi 15 ao?t 2016 13:16 To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4 Well, If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size. The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i?s only a guess? Hello Adobe? Best regards Tobias Trofast Lecturer Graphic Production ITN SE-601 74 NORRK?PING Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96 Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2 Please visit us at <http://www.liu.se> www.liu.se < <http://www.liu.se/> http://www.liu.se/> On 15/08/16 12:59, "eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com>" <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> on behalf of eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com>> wrote: Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions to eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> To subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visit http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en or, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' to eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-request@lists.callas software.com> You can reach the person managing the list at eci-en-owner(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-owner@lists.callassoft ware.com> When replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specific than "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..." Today's Topics: 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Roger Breton) 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400 From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca%3e> >> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> Message-ID: <01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0 $dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> <mailto:$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca> >> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only includes the ?name? of the profiles. Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. / Roger Breton From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas software.com> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias Wessman Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com><mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 Hi Chris, I was curious on your mention that: ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you achive that? Matthias Wessman Tech Support Prepress Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> " <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4 On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote: Hi! I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following error message: "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default values will be used instead." I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI)? I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? What created it (application and version)? If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either. -- Chris Murphy _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:ECI-EN@lists.callassoftware.com> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en -------------- next part -------------- An HTML attachment was scrubbed... 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Kamil On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca%3e> >> wrote: > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only > includes the ?name? of the profiles. > > > > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time. > > > > / Roger Breton > > > > From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas software.com> > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias > Wessman > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM > To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > Hi Chris, > > I was curious on your mention that: > > > > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings? > > > > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you > achive that? > > > > > > > > > > > > Matthias Wessman > > Tech Support Prepress > > > > > > Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy > <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com%3e> >> > Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >" > <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48 > Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >" <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com%3e> >> > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC > 2015.4 > > > > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com%3e> >> > wrote: > > Hi! > > > > > > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded > > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following > > error message: > > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default > > values will be used instead." > > > > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but > > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings > > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI. > > > > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem > > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using. > > > > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to > > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)? > > > > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency > > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make > > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get > > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated > > v2 300% (ECI)? > > > > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input. > > > > > > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a > > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if > > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings > > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is > > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect. > > > > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are > > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up > > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in > > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel > > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which > > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe > > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings. > > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the > > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF? > > What created it (application and version)? > > > > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the > > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this > > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. 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