Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11
by Roger Breton
Hallo Mathias,
Bite, send me you Macintosh CSF file at graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> .
Ich bin on Windows 10.
MfG / Roger
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Hi,
Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong at 'mawe(a)dgli.se'
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Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11
Hi Roger and Mark
It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they
provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if
you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too
Œjust in case¹ ;-)
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It should work, Mark.
Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a
CSF.
/ Roger
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Hi,
Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
ICC-profile.
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Hi
Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
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On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
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Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
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> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000
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Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data
in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?
Axel
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias Trofast
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
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Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
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> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n:
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com%3e> >>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Hi
Works for both Mac and PC. The same .csf files can be used on both.
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>Hi,
>Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it
>is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the
>software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work
>unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread
>initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong
>at 'mawe(a)dgli.se'
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>Hi Roger and Mark
>
>It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they
>provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if
>you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too
>?just in case? ;-)
>
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>It should work, Mark.
>
>
>Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a
>CSF.
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>/ Roger
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>Hi,
>
>Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
>profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
>there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
>
>A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
>ICC-profile.
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>Hi
>
>
>Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
>
>with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
>
>profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
>
>around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
>
>
>So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
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>From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se>
><mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> >
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>To:
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>Well,
>
>
>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>
>beeing different in file size.
>
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
>
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
>
>i?s only a guess?
>
>
>Hello Adobe?
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>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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> InDesign CC
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>2015.4
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> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
>
>only
>
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>
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> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
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>InDesign CC
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> 2015.4
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> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
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>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
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>
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> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
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><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
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> Hi!
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> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
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>downloaded
>
>
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>
>following
>
>
>
> error message:
>
>
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
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>Default
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> values will be used instead."
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> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
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>file, but
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> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
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>settings
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> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
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> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
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>problem
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> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
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> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
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>anything to
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> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
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> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
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>agency
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>
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> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
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>
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> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
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>get
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>
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> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
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>Coated
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> v2 300% (ECI)?
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> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
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> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
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> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
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> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
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> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
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> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
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> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
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>
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> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
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>
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
>
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
>
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
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>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
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>
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> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
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> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
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> What created it (application and version)?
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> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
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> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
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> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
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> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
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> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11
by Matthias Wessman
Hi,
Are you talking WIN only or? I think it will not work on a Mac. Maybe it is working for you when using a already installed ICC (prob by the software/ adobe itself) but if you refer to a specific ICC it wont work unless you install the ICC first. Thats whats happened in this thread initially. Please feel free to email such a CSF-file to proove me wrong at 'mawe(a)dgli.se'
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Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 11
Hi Roger and Mark
It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they
provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if
you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too
Œjust in case¹ ;-)
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From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
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It should work, Mark.
Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a
CSF.
/ Roger
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Hi,
Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
ICC-profile.
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
Hi
Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
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2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
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From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com<mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>
<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> >
wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000
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Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data
in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?
Axel
Axel Robert | UBISOFT
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias Trofast
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
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> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n:
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ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
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> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
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by Paul Sherfield
Hi Roger and Mark
It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they
provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if
you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too
just in case¹ ;-)
Regards
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>It should work, Mark.
>
>
>
>Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a
>CSF.
>
>
>
>/ Roger
>
>
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>
>Hi,
>
>Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
>profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
>there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
>
>A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
>ICC-profile.
>
>
>
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>?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
>
>
>
>Hi
>
>
>
>Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
>
>with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
>
>profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
>
>around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
>
>
>
>So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
>
>
>
>Regards
>
>
>
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>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
>
>From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se
><mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> >
>
>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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>To: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com
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>Well,
>
>
>
>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>
>beeing different in file size.
>
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
>
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
>
>i?s only a guess?
>
>
>
>Hello Adobe?
>
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>
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>
>
>
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> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
>
> From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> >
>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>
> InDesign CC
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>2015.4
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> To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
>
>
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
>
>only
>
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>
>InDesign CC
>
> 2015.4
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
>
>you
>
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
>
>
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>
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>
> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
>
>CC
>
> 2015.4
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
>
><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
>
> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
>
>downloaded
>
>
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>
>following
>
>
>
> error message:
>
>
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
>
>Default
>
>
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
>
>file, but
>
>
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
>
>settings
>
>
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
>
>problem
>
>
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
>
>anything to
>
>
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
>
>agency
>
>
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
>
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
>
>get
>
>
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
>
>Coated
>
>
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
>
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
>
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
>
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
>
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
>
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
>
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
>
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
>
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
>
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
>
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
>
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
>
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
>
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
>
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
>
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
>
>
> Chris Murphy
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
>
>
>
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>
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
by Roger Breton
It should work, Mark.
Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a CSF.
/ Roger
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
Hi,
Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + ICC-profile.
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress,
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Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
Hi
Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the Œcsf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se <mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se> >
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Roger Breton)
2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> >
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
2015.4
To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> >
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com <mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com> >
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> >
wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris
Murphy
> <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> >
> Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> "
> <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> >
> Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48
> Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> "
<eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com <mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com> >
> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> >
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
> _______________________________________________
>
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>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data
in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?
Axel
Axel Robert | UBISOFT
Prepress quality manager
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias Trofast
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Roger Breton)
2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton
<graxx(a)videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca> <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca <mailto:graxx@videotron.ca%3e> >> wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From:
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> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n:
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com%3e> >>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 8
by Roger Breton
Paul,
That is good news! I should have tested this before but, indeed, the entire
profile seems to be dumped into the CSF, at least on Windows10.
Best / Roger
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Hi
Yes, the profiles are in the .csf. However if you wish these profiles to be
used in non Adobe CS/CC programmes, the the profiles need to be installed
separately in the correct folder.
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>Hi,
>Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
>profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
>there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
>A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
>ICC-profile.
>
>
>Matthias Wessman
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>
>Hi
>
>Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
>with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
>profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
>around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
>
>So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
>
>Regards
>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
>From: Tobias Trofast
><tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se>>
>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
>To:
>"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>"
><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com
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>Well,
>
>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>beeing different in file size.
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb,
>while
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not,
>but i?s only a guess?
>
>Hello Adobe?
>
>Best regards
>
>Tobias Trofast
>Lecturer Graphic Production
>
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
> From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
> InDesign CC 2015.4
> To:
><eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>>
> Message-ID:
><01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$(a)videotron.ca<mailto:01a301d1f6e0$49f38
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
>File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From:
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> Wessman
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> To:
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
>you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
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> Fr?n:
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>lla
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>Chris Murphy
> <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com>
><mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> >
> Svara till:
>"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
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> Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48
> Till:
>"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
>downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
>Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
>file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
>settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
>problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
>anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
>agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
> make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
>can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
>Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
> if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk
> pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button
> in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it,
> which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
> this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 8
by Paul Sherfield
Hi
Yes, the profiles are in the .csf. However if you wish these profiles to
be used in non Adobe CS/CC programmes, the the profiles need to be
installed separately in the correct folder.
Regards
Paul Sherfield
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>Message: 1
>Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 11:58:34 +0000
>From: Matthias Wessman <mawe(a)dgli.se>
>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
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>Hi,
>Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
>profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
>there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
>A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
>ICC-profile.
>
>
>Matthias Wessman
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>
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>
>Fr?n:
><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla
>ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Paul Sherfield
><paul(a)missinghorsecons.co.uk<mailto:paul@missinghorsecons.co.uk>>
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>?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
>
>Hi
>
>Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
>with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
>profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
>around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
>
>So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
>
>Regards
>
>Paul Sherfield
>
>
>Please note my mobile is now my main contact number:
>Mobile: + 44 7899 906385
>
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>
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>
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>Message: 1
>Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
>From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se<mailto:tobias.trofast@liu.se>>
>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
>To:
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>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
>
>Well,
>
>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>beeing different in file size.
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
>i?s only a guess?
>
>Hello Adobe?
>
>Best regards
>
>Tobias Trofast
>Lecturer Graphic Production
>
>
>
>ITN
>SE-601 74 NORRK?PING
>Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96
>Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2
>Please visit us at www.liu.se <http://www.liu.se/>
>
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> 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
>
>
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
> From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
> InDesign CC 2015.4
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> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
>only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From:
>eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callas
>software.com>
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To:
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
>you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n:
><eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla
>ssoftware.com>
> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris
>Murphy
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><mailto:lists@colorremedies.com> >
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>"eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
>CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
>downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
>Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
>file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
>settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
>problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
>anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
>agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
>get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
>Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
> _______________________________________________
>
> ECI-EN mailing list
>
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 5
by Matthias Wessman
Hi,
Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + ICC-profile.
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress,
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Hi
Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the Œcsf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC 2015.4
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com<mailto:kamil.tresnak@gmail.com>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris
Murphy
> <lists(a)colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com>>
> Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>"
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> Till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>"
<eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>>
> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000
From: Axel Robert <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com<mailto:axel.robert@ubisoft.com>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data
in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?
Axel
Axel Robert | UBISOFT
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Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias Trofast
Lecturer Graphic Production
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SE-601 74 NORRK?PING
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From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca><mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com><mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton
<graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca><mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>> wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From:
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> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
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> Wessman
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> To:
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n:
<eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla
ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy
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> Till:
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com><mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Hi
Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the csf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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>Well,
>
>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>beeing different in file size.
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
>i?s only a guess?
>
>Hello Adobe?
>
>Best regards
>
>Tobias Trofast
>Lecturer Graphic Production
>
>
>
>ITN
>SE-601 74 NORRK?PING
>Phone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96
>Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2
>Please visit us at www.liu.se <http://www.liu.se/>
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> 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4 (Roger Breton)
> 2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
>
>
> ----------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
> From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
> InDesign CC 2015.4
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>
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
>only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
>you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris
>Murphy
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
>CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com
> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
>downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
>Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
>file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
>settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
>problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
>anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
>agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
>get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
>Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
by Axel Robert
Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included…
Axel
Axel Robert | UBISOFT
Prepress quality manager
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Date: lundi 15 août 2016 13:16
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i’s only a guess…
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias Trofast
Lecturer Graphic Production
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Roger Breton)
2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
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Message: 1
Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC 2015.4
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>> wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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