Re: [ECI-EN] colour accuracy of printer suppliers
by Jones, Ken
Thank you to everyone who has responded. I certainly feel I now have a
greater understanding of what is possible and more able to make my
decisions.
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020 7010 4136
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> Hi Ken
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> Have a look at this software for checking ISO 12647/2 compliance using a
> EyeOnePro and a small colour bar.
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> And yes, you should be using the ISO coated v2 profiles for coated papers
> based on the latest Fogra 39 data sets.
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> See this link:
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> http://www.bodoni.co.uk/product_info.php?cPath=205&products_id=861
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Re: [ECI-EN] colour accuracy of printer suppliers
by Florian Süßl
Hello Ken,
One quick remark:
FOGRA27 is outdated!
Please use FOGRA39 as reference of offset printing on gloss- or matte-
coated paper, in particular for assessment of proofs. As you certainly
know, the reference data sets are valid per output condition only.
E.g. FOGRA29 would be the choice for offset on uncoated stock. A list
of char' data reference FOGRA numbers and the respective ECI offset
profiles is provided in the documentation coming with the ECI Offset
profiles 2008, available in the download section on www.eci.org.
Some more thoughts below in your text.
Good luck with all your efforts!
Best Regards,
Florian
Am 17.10.2008 um 13:09 schrieb Jones, Ken:
> I have been researching methods of assessing colour accuracy of
> printer suppliers we use and would like some knowledgeable and
> impartial advice (i.e. Not from a salesman!) and I hope you can help
> me with a couple of questions.
>
> I have requested running sheets for some recent print jobs and aim
> to sample the colour bars in order to build a test of how closely
> the FOGRA27 has been matched, or not. Then I want to obtain a report
> that I can use both internally to Production Managers to make them
> aware of colour matching issues and also send to the printer
> involved to make them aware that they have been tested and the
> results found.
>
> Here are my questions:
>
> • What measuring device would you recommend I use? (make and model
> if possible)
One option is the X-Rite i1 Pro as this device is very popular. In
order to avoid confusing measurement differences which may occure
comparing measurements from different manufacturers' devices, this
aspect may become important once you compare your findings with those
of e.g. the printer.
Of course there are other devices as well, e.g. Techkon's RS 800
offering fast measurements in scanning mode.
> • What software would you recommend for recording results and
> creating reports? (make and version if possible)
> • Ideally we will require some standardised colour bars to be added
> to running sheets. However, what method would you suggest for
> sampling non-standard colour bars that are currently applied by our
> printers?
You may wish to check out the ECI/bvdm Gray Control Strip available
for free in the download sections at www.eci.org and www.bvdm.org
>
>
> Thanks
> Ken Jones
> Technical Production Manager
>
> Penguin Group (UK)
> 80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
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colour accuracy of printer suppliers
by Jones, Ken
I have been researching methods of assessing colour accuracy of printer
suppliers we use and would like some knowledgeable and impartial advice
(i.e. Not from a salesman!) and I hope you can help me with a couple of
questions.
I have requested running sheets for some recent print jobs and aim to sample
the colour bars in order to build a test of how closely the FOGRA27 has
been matched, or not. Then I want to obtain a report that I can use both
internally to Production Managers to make them aware of colour matching
issues and also send to the printer involved to make them aware that they
have been tested and the results found.
Here are my questions:
* What measuring device would you recommend I use? (make and model if
possible)
* What software would you recommend for recording results and creating
reports? (make and version if possible)
* Ideally we will require some standardised colour bars to be added to
running sheets. However, what method would you suggest for sampling
non-standard colour bars that are currently applied by our printers?
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020 7010 4136
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