Good morning Neil,
thanks for your help.
Without Gretag MeasureTool, I cannot get the
measured data, right?
This means metaprintcheck works on top of Gretag
Measure Tool.
I lool for an alternative to Gretag Measure Tool.
Even if I use i1share, I cannot use a strip mode to measure.
I like metaprintcheck but w/o an interface to run online measurements, it is not really what I am looking for.
Best regards,
Chris
Toshiba Tec Germany Imaging Systems GmbH
European Colour Support
Carl-Schurz-Str. 7
41460 Neuss
+4921311245371
----- Originalnachricht -----
Von: Neil Barstow <listservmail(a)neilbarstow.co.uk>
Datum: Samstag, 18. November 2006, 22:01
Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] WG: Re: Alternative zum Measure Tool von Gretag
> Hi Christian
>
> re-sent as something happened to my formatting!
>
>
> It's the same as pasting in a sample.
>
>
>
>
> 1: Open MetaPrintCheck
> 2: Open the mpc-prepare app
>
>
>
> 3: drop the reference measurement file [has to be in standard format]
> onto the mpc-prepare app desktop icon. It is now prepared to use
> and is
> now on the clipboard
>
> 4: the MPC spreadsheet has 4 tabs
>
> check
>
> licence
>
> reference
>
> sample
>
> select the reference tab and paste your own reference text into the
> sheet, first selecting the top left cell.
>
>
> 5: now select <reference measurement> where you currently se ISO
> 12647 in
> the pulldown 5th down from top right,
>
>
> 6: the sample is now compared against your reference (see the
> check tab)
> it's pretty easy.
>
>
> the MPC manual is very helpful on this
>
> all the best
>
>
> neil barstow
>
> cschwarze(a)imail.de (Christian Schwarze)::18/11/06::10:52:: GMT+0100
>
> >Hi Neil,
> >
> >thanks a lot for your tip,
> >I checked metaprintcheck already and I
> >could not find a way to use my own txt file as reference.
> >Maybe you can help me?
> >
> >Best regards,
> >Chris
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
> >Christian Schwarze
> >
> >----- Originalnachricht -----
> >Von: Neil Barstow <listservmail(a)neilbarstow.co.uk>
> >Datum: Donnerstag, 16. November 2006, 0:41
> >Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] Alternative zum Measure Tool von Gretag
> >
> >> Hi Christian
> >>
> >> You may like to take a look at MetaPrint Check, it mostly uses
> measure>> Tool to drive the instrument but provides a great deal
> of detail about
> >> the collected data.
> >>
> >> http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
> >>
> >> Babel Fish Translation
> >> Auf deutsch:
> >> Sie können einen Blick an der MetaPrintCheck, es nehmen mögen
> benutzen>> meistens Maß Werkzeug, um das Instrument zu fahren aber
> zur Verfügung
> >> stellen viel Detail über die gesammelten Daten.
> >>
> >>
> >> cschwarze(a)imail.de (Christian Schwarze)::15/11/06::22:11:: GMT+0100
> >>
> >> >Hallo zusammen,
> >> >
> >> >kennt jemand eine Alternative zum GretagMacbeth ProfileMaker5
> >> Measure Tool?
> >> >
> >> >Ziel ist es eine selbst erstellte Referenzdatei im txt format
> >> >zu verwenden, wobei die Messwerte auch graphisch angezeigt
> >> >werden koennnen, so wie Gradationskurven gemäss ISO 12647.
> >> >
> >> >Für jeden Tip bin ich dankbar
> >> >
> >> >Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
> >> >Christian Schwarze
> >>
> >>
> >> Best Regards, Neil Barstow - Imaging & Colour Management
> Specialist>> www.colourmanagement.net/
> www.apple.com/uk/creative/neilbarstow/>>
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Hi Christian
re-sent as something happened to my formatting!
It's the same as pasting in a sample.
1: Open MetaPrintCheck
2: Open the mpc-prepare app
3: drop the reference measurement file [has to be in standard format]
onto the mpc-prepare app desktop icon. It is now prepared to use and is
now on the clipboard
4: the MPC spreadsheet has 4 tabs
check
licence
reference
sample
select the reference tab and paste your own reference text into the
sheet, first selecting the top left cell.
5: now select <reference measurement> where you currently se ISO 12647 in
the pulldown 5th down from top right,
6: the sample is now compared against your reference (see the check tab)
it's pretty easy.
the MPC manual is very helpful on this
all the best
neil barstow
cschwarze(a)imail.de (Christian Schwarze)::18/11/06::10:52:: GMT+0100
>Hi Neil,
>
>thanks a lot for your tip,
>I checked metaprintcheck already and I
>could not find a way to use my own txt file as reference.
>Maybe you can help me?
>
>Best regards,
>Chris
>
>Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
>Christian Schwarze
>
>----- Originalnachricht -----
>Von: Neil Barstow <listservmail(a)neilbarstow.co.uk>
>Datum: Donnerstag, 16. November 2006, 0:41
>Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] Alternative zum Measure Tool von Gretag
>
>> Hi Christian
>>
>> You may like to take a look at MetaPrint Check, it mostly uses measure
>> Tool to drive the instrument but provides a great deal of detail about
>> the collected data.
>>
>> http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
>>
>> Babel Fish Translation
>> Auf deutsch:
>> Sie können einen Blick an der MetaPrintCheck, es nehmen mögen benutzen
>> meistens Maß Werkzeug, um das Instrument zu fahren aber zur Verfügung
>> stellen viel Detail über die gesammelten Daten.
>>
>>
>> cschwarze(a)imail.de (Christian Schwarze)::15/11/06::22:11:: GMT+0100
>>
>> >Hallo zusammen,
>> >
>> >kennt jemand eine Alternative zum GretagMacbeth ProfileMaker5
>> Measure Tool?
>> >
>> >Ziel ist es eine selbst erstellte Referenzdatei im txt format
>> >zu verwenden, wobei die Messwerte auch graphisch angezeigt
>> >werden koennnen, so wie Gradationskurven gemäss ISO 12647.
>> >
>> >Für jeden Tip bin ich dankbar
>> >
>> >Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
>> >Christian Schwarze
>>
>>
>> Best Regards, Neil Barstow - Imaging & Colour Management Specialist
>> www.colourmanagement.net/www.apple.com/uk/creative/neilbarstow/
>> _______________________________________________
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Best Regards, Neil Barstow
Imaging & Colour Management Specialist
http://www.colourmanagement.net
proud to be part of:
http://www.colormanagementgroup.comwww.colormanagement.com
Hi Neil,
thanks a lot for your tip,
I checked metaprintcheck already and I
could not find a way to use my own txt file as reference.
Maybe you can help me?
Best regards,
Chris
Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Christian Schwarze
----- Originalnachricht -----
Von: Neil Barstow <listservmail(a)neilbarstow.co.uk>
Datum: Donnerstag, 16. November 2006, 0:41
Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] Alternative zum Measure Tool von Gretag
> Hi Christian
>
> You may like to take a look at MetaPrint Check, it mostly uses measure
> Tool to drive the instrument but provides a great deal of detail about
> the collected data.
>
> http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
>
> Babel Fish Translation
> Auf deutsch:
> Sie können einen Blick an der MetaPrintCheck, es nehmen mögen benutzen
> meistens Maß Werkzeug, um das Instrument zu fahren aber zur Verfügung
> stellen viel Detail über die gesammelten Daten.
>
>
> cschwarze(a)imail.de (Christian Schwarze)::15/11/06::22:11:: GMT+0100
>
> >Hallo zusammen,
> >
> >kennt jemand eine Alternative zum GretagMacbeth ProfileMaker5
> Measure Tool?
> >
> >Ziel ist es eine selbst erstellte Referenzdatei im txt format
> >zu verwenden, wobei die Messwerte auch graphisch angezeigt
> >werden koennnen, so wie Gradationskurven gemäss ISO 12647.
> >
> >Für jeden Tip bin ich dankbar
> >
> >Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
> >Christian Schwarze
>
>
> Best Regards, Neil Barstow - Imaging & Colour Management Specialist
> www.colourmanagement.net/www.apple.com/uk/creative/neilbarstow/
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Pantone Color Bridge Uncoated EURO
Pantone do not have "Color Bridge Uncoated EURO" production. I asked Pantone why. Answer was, that it will be, IF there exist sufficient demand in the market. So If you would like to have this production (I would), please take contact to Pantone and tell it to them. Pantone said: "If there are others who feel as you do, we would love to hear from you! Feel free to make your desires known."
Best Regards
------------------------------------------------
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Erweko Painotuote Oy
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Hello
There are Euro values only for coated paper. I wonder why? Pantone's "Solid to process" values are old ones. Newer is Pantone "Colour Bridge Euro" values. Almost 95 % of colour values are changed. You can also download update to most common grafic softwares f.eg. Indesign and Photoshop from Pantones Internet sites. Update will give you a new colour watch "Colour Bridge Euro", where newes values for Euro inks are.
Best Regards
------------------------------------------------
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Finland
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:11:15 +0100
From: Henk Gianotten <henk(a)gianotten.com>
Subject: [ECI-EN] Pantone Uncoated information for EURO
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Hi,
I am looking for the Pantone bridge European Uncoated values.
Somewere one described it as follows:
Application support files PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK UE for the markets outside North America and Asia.
It is like the PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK EC for the European market but in this case the values are for Uncoated.
Based on ISO 2846-1 and ISO 12647-2.
Do they exist?
Thank for your help.
Henk Gianotten
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:04:00 -0500
From: Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Pantone Uncoated information for EURO
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I don't think they exist for uncoated at all. I've only seen solid to process numbers posted for coated.
Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
New York, NY
In New York City? Chris will be giving a special class on managing color in the Adobe Creative Suite 2. http://www.colorremedies.com/nyc
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Co-author "Real World Color Management, 2nd Ed"
On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Henk Gianotten wrote:
> Hi,
> I am looking for the Pantone bridge European Uncoated values.
> Somewere one described it as follows:
> Application support files PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK UE for the
> markets outside North America and Asia.
> It is like the PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK EC for the European market
> but in this case the values are for Uncoated.
> Based on ISO 2846-1 and ISO 12647-2.
> Do they exist?
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Hallo zusammen,
kennt jemand eine Alternative zum GretagMacbeth ProfileMaker5 Measure Tool?
Ziel ist es eine selbst erstellte Referenzdatei im txt format zu verwenden, wobei die Messwerte auch graphisch angezeigt werden koennnen, so wie Gradationskurven gemäss ISO 12647.
Für jeden Tip bin ich dankbar
Mit freundlichen Grüssen,
Christian Schwarze
Toshiba TEC Germany Imaging Systems GmbH
European Colour Support
Neuss
021311245 371
Hello
There are Euro values only for coated paper. I wonder why? Pantone's "Solid to process" values are old ones. Newer is Pantone "Colour Bridge Euro" values. Almost 95 % of colour values are changed. You can also download update to most common grafic softwares f.eg. Indesign and Photoshop from Pantones Internet sites. Update will give you a new colour watch "Colour Bridge Euro", where newes values for Euro inks are.
Best Regards
------------------------------------------------
Jyrki Kela
Quality and Technology Manager
Erweko Painotuote Oy
Valuraudantie 20, 00700 Helsinki
Finland
Tel. +358 9 7310 2319
Mobile +358 40 7 357 357
Fax +358 9 7310 2389
e-mail: jyrki.kela(a)erweko.fi
http://www.erweko.fi
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Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 01:11:15 +0100
From: Henk Gianotten <henk(a)gianotten.com>
Subject: [ECI-EN] Pantone Uncoated information for EURO
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Hi,
I am looking for the Pantone bridge European Uncoated values.
Somewere one described it as follows:
Application support files PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK UE for the markets outside North America and Asia.
It is like the PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK EC for the European market but in this case the values are for Uncoated.
Based on ISO 2846-1 and ISO 12647-2.
Do they exist?
Thank for your help.
Henk Gianotten
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
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Date: Mon, 13 Nov 2006 20:04:00 -0500
From: Chris Murphy <lists(a)colorremedies.com>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Pantone Uncoated information for EURO
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I don't think they exist for uncoated at all. I've only seen solid to process numbers posted for coated.
Chris Murphy
Color Remedies (TM)
New York, NY
In New York City? Chris will be giving a special class on managing color in the Adobe Creative Suite 2. http://www.colorremedies.com/nyc
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On Nov 13, 2006, at 7:11 PM, Henk Gianotten wrote:
> Hi,
> I am looking for the Pantone bridge European Uncoated values.
> Somewere one described it as follows:
> Application support files PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK UE for the
> markets outside North America and Asia.
> It is like the PANTONE? COLOR BRIDGE CMYK EC for the European market
> but in this case the values are for Uncoated.
> Based on ISO 2846-1 and ISO 12647-2.
> Do they exist?
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Hi,
I am looking for the Pantone bridge European Uncoated values.
Somewere one described it as follows:
Application support files PANTONE® COLOR BRIDGE CMYK UE for the markets
outside North America and Asia.
It is like the PANTONE® COLOR BRIDGE CMYK EC for the European market but in
this case the values are for Uncoated.
Based on ISO 2846-1 and ISO 12647-2.
Do they exist?
Thank for your help.
Henk Gianotten
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Henk Gianotten, Prins Hendriklaan 58 3761 DW Soest, Netherlands
Tel. +31 (0)35 60 12 206 Fax: +31 (0)84 73 04 497 e-mail: henk(a)gianotten.com
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