ECI-EN December 2007

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by Magnus Sandström

Hi, we are testing out an Epson 9800 right now and were having some issues. The red (100%y 100%m) Doesnt get red enough. To low intensity. And the Delta E value landing on 9! All other colors are good. Im been searching the net but havent found anything about this. Im using GMG Colorproof and Fogra39 values. Any ideas whats wrong? This might be th wrong forum to ask about this but I'll give it a go anyway. // _________________________ Magnus Sandström Alfa Print Cirkusgränd 2 172 63 Sundbyberg 08-546 007 74

16 years, 1 month

Re: [ECI-EN] Work on MFC paper

by Meinecke, Karl Michael (bvdm)

David, a series of test print runs on MFC papers (54gsm) was done recently by ECI web offset working group. Characterization data and profile are currently under review and will be published soon. Best regards Karl Michael Meinecke Bundesverband Druck und Medien e.V. (bvdm) German Printing and Media Industries Federation (bvdm) Biebricher Allee 79 | D-65187 Wiesbaden Fon +49(0)611 - 80 31 68 | Fax +49(0)611 - 80 32 68 mailto:km@bvdm-online.de | URL www.bvdm-online.de ------------------------------------------------------ ATS | Altona Test Suite Application Kit www.altonatestsuite.com R16 | roman16 bvdm Reference Images www.roman16.com -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: David Crowther [mailto:David.Crowther@des-pl.com.au] Gesendet: Montag, 10. Dezember 2007 08:04 An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Betreff: [ECI-EN] Work on MFC paper With regards to the ICC profiles and characterization data available from ECI and FOGRA. Can anyone enlighten me if any work is being done to produce a characterization data (and an 'ISO" profile) for MFC Paper, 56gsm. (Machine Finished Coated) This type of paper is becoming more and more popular in Web Offset printing and I was wondering if any work was being done to include this type of stock within ISO 12647-2? Should you need any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me. Kind Regards, David Crowther National Manager - X-Rite products Manager - Chromaticity Australia | DES PTY LTD | 17 Leeds St | Rhodes | 2138 | NSW | T +61 (0)2 9736 6720 | | F +61 (0)2 9743 6709 | M +61 (0)400 123 398 | www.des-pl.com.au On-line technical support at http://www.chroma-tech.com _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

16 years, 3 months

Re: [ECI-EN] fogra39 dataset incorporating Amendment for Green an d Blue

by Meinecke, Karl Michael (bvdm)

Roger, the CIELAB values for green and blue in FOGRA39 are *not* the same as in FOGRA27. The values of ISO 12647-2:2004 Amd1 (2007) are modified in FOGRA39, according to best practice results. This is in compliance with ISO requirements. Secondaries (RGB) in ISO 12647 are informative, not normative. See also http://www.eci.org/eci/en/060_downloads.php (ECI-Offset_2007.zip) CIELAB values (all values white backing) FOGRA39 Green = 50 -65 27 Blue = 24 22 -46 ISO 12647-2:2004 Amd1 (2007) (published 2007-04-17) Green = 50 -68 25 Blue = 24 17 -46 FOGRA27 Green = 48,5 -67,5 28 Blue = 24,4 16,2 -47,1 ISO 12647-2:2004 (published 2004-11-15) Green = 50 -68 33 Blue = 20 25 -49 Freundliche Gruesse - Best regards Karl Michael Meinecke Bundesverband Druck und Medien e.V. (bvdm) German Printing and Media Industries Federation (bvdm) Biebricher Allee 79 | D-65187 Wiesbaden Fon +49(0)611 - 80 31 68 | Fax +49(0)611 - 80 32 68 mailto:km@bvdm-online.de | URL www.bvdm-online.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Roger Breton [mailto:graxx@videotron.ca] Gesendet: Freitag, 14. Dezember 2007 05:06 An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Betreff: [ECI-EN] fogra39 dataset incorporating Amendment for Green and Blue Guten abend, The following fogra web page introduce the updated fogra39 dataset which is supposed to include the 2005 ISO-12647-2 amendment for the green (100C+100Y) and the blue (100M+100C). http://www.fogra.org/rss/blog0033.html But when I download and open the fogra39 dataset and look up the CIE Lab values for green and blue, the values in the dataset are still the fogra27 values (Green = 50 -65 27 vs 50 -68 25 and Blue = 24 22 -46 vs 24 17 -46)? Any reason why the dataset has not been recalculated or updated? Unless I really need a pair of new glasses ;-) MfG, Roger Breton _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

16 years, 4 months

New ISO Uncoated?

by Lars Jacobsen

Hi there, ECI wrote that the profiles based on Fogra 28,29,30 (“ISO Web Coated”, “ISO Uncoated” and “ISO Uncoated Yellowish”) was to be reviewed during 2007 and that they should make new versions if found neccessary. Any news about this out there? I must say our most used uncoated papers are a lot more blue than whats described in the ISO standard. The same goes for PT1 and 2, but PT4 is farest from our reality. Lars Jacobsen Preflight/Impose/CMS Merkur-Trykk AS Stanseveien 9, N-0901 Oslo Tlf.: +47 23 33 92 31 Filoverføring: www.merkurtrykk.no

16 years, 4 months

Work on MFC paper

by David Crowther

With regards to the ICC profiles and characterization data available from ECI and FOGRA. Can anyone enlighten me if any work is being done to produce a characterization data (and an 'ISO" profile) for MFC Paper, 56gsm. (Machine Finished Coated) This type of paper is becoming more and more popular in Web Offset printing and I was wondering if any work was being done to include this type of stock within ISO 12647-2? Should you need any further information, please do not hesitate to contact me. Kind Regards, David Crowther National Manager - X-Rite products Manager - Chromaticity Australia | DES PTY LTD | 17 Leeds St | Rhodes | 2138 | NSW | T +61 (0)2 9736 6720 | | F +61 (0)2 9743 6709 | M +61 (0)400 123 398 | www.des-pl.com.au On-line technical support at http://www.chroma-tech.com

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