8:39 a.m.
Dear all
Does anyone know a solution where you could read control strip with
Eye-one strip mode directly to Excel? KeyWizard does not seem to work in
Strip Mode
Br Jouni
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M-real Corporation
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4:43 p.m.
Dear Jouni
I¹ve been looking into this for us here at Penguin Group.
Here are a couple of links to companies which provide strip reading for
assessing press sheets as opposed to proofs (which there are numerous other
software apps available), they all require there own custom strip to be
printed, however.
http://www.mellowcolour.com/HomePages/SoftwareTraining.html
http://www.bodoni.co.uk/presssignpressmeasurementverificationsoftware-p-709.
html
http://www.spotonpress.com/
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020 7010 4136
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Dear all
Does anyone know a solution where you could read control strip with Eye-one
strip mode directly to Excel? KeyWizard does not seem to work in Strip Mode
Br Jouni
_________________________________________
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R&D Manager, Printing Technology
M-real Corporation
Technology Centre Kirkniemi
FIN-08800 KIRKNIEMI
Finland
Tel: +358 (0)10 464 2908
Fax: +358 (0)10 464 2412
Mobile: +358 (0)50 381 9085
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Hi Ken, Jouni,
If wanting to measure and analyse print (offset?) and proof you you
might like to look at a very interesting product from Florian Sussl of
MetaDesign, MetaPrintCheck whom I think is an ECI committee member. It
is very versatile as pretty much any chart readings can be used.
some more here:-
http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
German website
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
English language manual here:
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/downloads/MetaPrintCheck-3_Manual_EN.pdf
In answer to the earlier question, to simply read in strip mode, I have
never managed a read striaght to Excel, but use XRite's Measure tool and
simply paste the resulting file, not TOO cumbersome. This is how
MetaPrintCheck gets it's data when used with an EyeOne, via a tiny
application that reformats the data to suit.
Regards, Neil Barstow :: Apple Solutions Expert :: Colour Management Specialist
custom profiling, training, seminars, implementation :: WE RESELL :- X-Rite
:: Gretag+eyeOne :: basICColor :: Eizo :: Quato :: Epson :: GTI view booths ::
GMG RIP :: Photo RIPs+ISO Proofing solutions :: Inkjet papers inc. Innova
ken.jones(a)uk.penguingroup.com (Jones, Ken)::25/11/08::15:43:: GMT-0000
Dear Jouni
I¹ve been looking into this for us here at Penguin Group.
Here are a couple of links to companies which provide strip reading for
assessing press sheets as opposed to proofs (which there are numerous other
software apps available), they all require there own custom strip to be
printed, however.
http://www.mellowcolour.com/HomePages/SoftwareTraining.html
http://www.bodoni.co.uk/presssignpressmeasurementverificationsoftware-p-709.
html
http://www.spotonpress.com/
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020 7010 4136
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Dear all
Does anyone know a solution where you could read control strip with Eye-one
strip mode directly to Excel? KeyWizard does not seem to work in Strip Mode
Br Jouni
_________________________________________
Jouni Marttila
R&D Manager, Printing Technology
M-real Corporation
Technology Centre Kirkniemi
FIN-08800 KIRKNIEMI
Finland
Tel: +358 (0)10 464 2908
Fax: +358 (0)10 464 2412
Mobile: +358 (0)50 381 9085
Email: jouni.marttila(a)m-real.com
www.m-real.com <file://www.m-real.com>
3:57 p.m.
ColorShopX from X-Rite with it's measurement posting option will do this but
it isn't terribly robust, not all of the data makes it on occasion, and
because the strip isn't defined or received in CSX - it can't throw an error
about an incomplete read. Part of the problem is the way that Microsoft
looks at the keyboard buffer (particularly on the Mac) sending a lot of data
(scan as opposed to a single measurement) creates problems. In some other
products we have an artificial buffer that slowly releases data but this has
it's own complications.
RayC
Ray Cheydleur
OEM Project Manager
X-Rite Incorporated
From: Neil Barstow
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Hi Ken, Jouni,
If wanting to measure and analyse print (offset?) and proof
you you
might like to look at a very interesting
product from Florian Sussl
of
MetaDesign, MetaPrintCheck whom I think is an
ECI committee member. It
is
very versatile as pretty much any chart readings can
be used.
some more
here:-
http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
German
website
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
English language manual
here:
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/downloads/MetaPrintCheck-3_Manual_EN.pdf
In answer to the earlier question, to simply read in
strip mode, I have
never
managed a read striaght to Excel, but use XRite's
Measure tool and
simply
paste the resulting file, not TOO cumbersome. This is
how
MetaPrintCheck gets
it's data when used with an EyeOne, via a tiny
application that reformats the
data to suit.
Regards, Neil Barstow :: Apple Solutions Expert :: Colour
Management Specialist
custom profiling,
training, seminars, implementation ::
WE RESELL :- X-Rite
:: Gretag+eyeOne ::
basICColor :: Eizo :: Quato :: Epson
:: GTI view booths ::
GMG RIP :: Photo
RIPs+ISO Proofing solutions ::
Inkjet papers inc. Innova
ken.jones(a)uk.penguingroup.com (Jones,
Ken)::25/11/08::15:43:: GMT-0000
Dear Jouni
I¹ve been looking into this
for us here at Penguin Group.
Here are a couple of links to companies which
provide strip reading for
assessing press sheets as opposed to proofs (which
there are numerous other
software apps available), they all require there own
custom strip to be
printed, however.
http://www.mellowcolour.com/HomePages/SoftwareTraining.html
http://www.
bodoni.co.uk/presssignpressmeasurementverificationsoftware-p-709.
html
htt
p://www.spotonpress.com/
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production
Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020
7010 4136
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Subject: [ECI-EN] Eye-One strip mode directly to excel
Dear all
Does anyone know a solution where you could read control strip with
Eye-one
strip mode directly to Excel? KeyWizard does not seem to work in
Strip Mode
Br Jouni
_________________________________________
Jouni
Marttila
R&D Manager, Printing Technology
M-real Corporation
Technology Centre Kirkniemi
FIN-08800 KIRKNIEMI
Finland
Tel: +358
(0)10 464 2908
Fax: +358 (0)10 464 2412
Mobile: +358 (0)50 381
9085
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9:38 a.m.
Hello all
Thanks for the good answers!
However when measuring prints not on profiling purposes but to compare papers, printing
conditions etc.. direct export to Excel is the fastest choice. For some reason old
software like keywizard and spectrochart seems to be much more flexible when wanting to
measure something else that pre-defined testcharts.
Techkon has very good device-PC interface and of course keywizard also do the trick but it
would be nice to use strip mode in those measurements.
br Jouni
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ColorShopX from X-Rite with it's measurement posting option
will do this but it isn't terribly robust, not all of the data
makes it on occasion, and because the strip isn't defined or
received in CSX - it can't throw an error about an incomplete
read. Part of the problem is the way that Microsoft looks at
the keyboard buffer (particularly on the Mac) sending a lot of
data (scan as opposed to a single measurement) creates
problems. In some other products we have an artificial buffer
that slowly releases data but this has it's own complications.
RayC
Ray Cheydleur
OEM Project Manager
X-Rite Incorporated
From: Neil Barstow
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Date: Wed, 26 Nov 2008 10:17:07 +0000
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Eye-One strip mode directly to excel
Hi Ken, Jouni,
If wanting to measure and analyse print (offset?) and proof
you you
might like to look at a very
interesting product from Florian Sussl
of
MetaDesign, MetaPrintCheck whom I think
is an ECI committee
member. It is
very versatile as pretty much any chart readings
can be used.
some more
here:-
http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
German
website
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
English language manual
here:
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/downloads/MetaPrintCheck-3_Manual_EN.pdf
In answer to the earlier question, to simply read
in strip mode, I
have
never
managed a read striaght to Excel, but use
XRite's Measure tool and
simply
paste the resulting file, not TOO cumbersome.
This is how
MetaPrintCheck gets
it's data when used with an EyeOne, via a
tiny
application that reformats the
data to suit.
Regards, Neil Barstow :: Apple Solutions Expert :: Colour
Management Specialist
custom profiling,
training, seminars, implementation ::
WE RESELL :- X-Rite
:: Gretag+eyeOne ::
basICColor :: Eizo :: Quato :: Epson
:: GTI view booths ::
GMG RIP :: Photo
RIPs+ISO Proofing solutions ::
Inkjet papers inc. Innova
ken.jones(a)uk.penguingroup.com (Jones,
Ken)::25/11/08::15:43:: GMT-0000
Dear Jouni
I¹ve been looking into this
for us here at Penguin Group.
Here are a couple of links to companies which
provide strip reading for
assessing press sheets as opposed to proofs (which
there are numerous other
software apps available), they all require there own
custom strip to be
printed, however.
http://www.mellowcolour.com/HomePages/SoftwareTraining.html
http://www.
bodoni.co.uk/presssignpressmeasurementverificationsoftware-p-709.
html
htt
p://www.spotonpress.com/
Thanks
Ken Jones
Technical Production
Manager
Penguin Group (UK)
80 Strand, London, WC2R 0RL
Direct Dial 020
7010 4136
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Subject: [ECI-EN] Eye-One strip mode directly to excel
Dear all
Does anyone know a solution where you could read control strip with
Eye-one strip mode directly to Excel? KeyWizard does not seem to work
in Strip Mode
Br Jouni
_________________________________________
Jouni
Marttila
R&D Manager, Printing Technology
M-real Corporation
Technology Centre Kirkniemi
FIN-08800 KIRKNIEMI
Finland
Tel: +358
(0)10 464 2908
Fax: +358 (0)10 464 2412
Mobile: +358 (0)50 381
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12:52 a.m.
How about BabelColor's PatchTool? It supports all EyeOnes, the DTP94 and the
Spyder.
Roger
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ColorShopX from X-Rite with it's measurement
posting option will do
this but
it isn't terribly robust
currently there is no application which allows just to measure RGB
patches on a monitor with all current devices (DTP94, i1 Display, i1
Pro, Munki), isn't it?
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Hi guys,
You know, the thing that break my heart with all those MetaprintCheck systems, is that
they are *static* systems. They're made with checking things when everything goes
right. But what about when nothing works? What are those systems good for?
Roger
Hi Ken, Jouni,
If wanting to measure and analyse print (offset?) and proof you you
might like to look at a very interesting product from Florian Sussl of
MetaDesign, MetaPrintCheck whom I think is an ECI committee member. It
is very versatile as pretty much any chart readings can be used.
some more here:-
http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
German website
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/
English language manual here:
http://www.metaprintcheck.de/downloads/MetaPrintCheck-3_Manual_EN.pdf
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Hi Roger
graxx(a)videotron.ca (Roger Breton)::30/11/08::17:06:: GMT-0500
Hi guys,
You know, the thing that break my heart with all those MetaprintCheck
systems, is that they are *static* systems. They're made with checking
things when everything goes right. But what about when nothing works?
What are those systems good for?
Roger
The "MetaPrintCheck" application specifically helps the press minder
correct his inking to achieve better reproduction by providing a
graphical representation of what's needed.
More here: http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
I guess that's about as far as reading a simple colour bar can help?
Other elements on a sheet are there to help him identify mechanical
machinery issues.
sorry we didn't get chance to chat properly at Extreme Colour in New
Orleans.
Best Regards, Neil Barstow
Imaging & Colour Management Specialist
http://www.colourmanagement.net
proud to be part of:
http://www.colormanagementgroup.com www.colormanagement.com
12:55 p.m.
Hi Neil,
My point is those system help *improve* on something that's already stable
and known to yield satisfactory results. My question was, what are the
systems out there designed to take a printer from chaos to order? May seem
trivial. And the question is not necessarily directed at you but the whole
list.
And, true, I'd wish we could have spent more time getting to know each other
in New Orleans but I was there only for the G7 Summit :(
Roger
Hi Roger
The "MetaPrintCheck" application specifically helps the press minder
correct his inking to achieve better reproduction by providing a
graphical representation of what's needed.
More here: http://www.colourmanagement.net/pressgear.html
I guess that's about as far as reading a simple colour bar can help?
Other elements on a sheet are there to help him identify mechanical
machinery issues.
sorry we didn't get chance to chat properly at Extreme Colour in New
Orleans.
Best Regards, Neil Barstow
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