Dear Breton Paper substrate might be the reason. Also re-calibrate the printer and optimize the MX3 file Regards Venkat RSG On 3/5/07 5:46 PM, "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca> wrote: _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

Dear Breton Paper substrate might be the reason. Also re-calibrate the printer and optimize the MX3 file Regards Venkat RSG On 3/5/07 5:46 PM, "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca> wrote: _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

Hello Magnus, I have some kind of Déjà-vu. This thread was discussed one year ago? Is your issue still present? Please download the profile and calibration from the gmg support website and check if the problem persist after recalibrating the printer. Regards Nicolas Kirste Product Management ________________________________ GMG GmbH & Co. KG Moempelgarder Weg 10 D-72072 Tuebingen mail to: nico.kirste(a)gmgcolor.com please visit: www.gmgcolor.com phone: +49(0)7071-93874-0 fax: +49(0)7071-93874-22 ________________________________ GMG is a leading developer of high-end color management solutions with more than 8,000 systems in use across the industry spectrum by ad-agencies, prepress houses, offset printers and international gravure printers. ________________________________ This e-mail and all attachments are confidential and may be privileged. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the sender immediately. Do not use, disseminate, store or copy it in any way. Statements or opinions in this e-mail or any attachment are those of the author and are not necessarily agreed or authorised by GMG GmbH & Co KG. GMG may monitor emails sent or received for operational or business reasons as permitted by law. GMG accepts no liability for viruses introduced by this e-mail or attachments. You should employ virus checking software. GMG GmbH & Co. KG . Registered Office: Tuebingen . Registered in Tuebingen, Germany at Stuttgart Local Court, No. HRA 381463 General Partner: GMG Verwaltung GmbH . Managing Directors: Joerg Weihing, Robert Weihing . Registered in Tuebingen, Germany at Stuttgart Local Court, No. HRB 382505 Banking affiliation: Volksbank Filder eG, Account No: 65 000 005, BLZ 611 616 96, IBAN: DE65 6116 1696 0065 0000 05, SWIFT: GENODES1NHB, VAT-ID No: DE 230 302 334 ________________________________ Von: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com ] Im Auftrag von Magnus Sandström Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 13:17 An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] Proofing Fogra39 with epson 9800 Without any recalibration were now down to 5,2 Delta E in 100m and 100y, so maybe we got som bad Ink-batch? :S Anyway there must be some reason for the new Vivid Magenta in the new Epson *880-series. :) gonna buy one soon. / Magnus 12 feb 2008 kl. 10.27 skrev venkata Ramana: Dear Breton Paper substrate might be the reason. Also re-calibrate the printer and optimize the MX3 file Regards Venkat RSG On 3/5/07 5:46 PM, "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca> wrote: Hi, we are testing out an Epson 9800 right now and were having some issues. The red (100%y 100%m) Doesnt get red enough. To low intensity. And the Delta E value landing on 9! All other colors are good. Im been searching the net but havent found anything about this. Im using GMG Colorproof and Fogra39 values. Any ideas whats wrong? This might be th wrong forum to ask about this but I'll give it a go anyway. _________________________ Magnus Sandström DeltaE 9 is quite high. Which media are you using? Did you compare your full gamut to your iterated gamut in a 3D gamut viewer application to see whether the full gamut does indeed enclose the 100%y 100Ym? Which instrument? MfG, Roger Breton | Laval, Canada | graxx(a)videotron.ca http://pages.infinit.net/graxx _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

Try with another color profile (for example Fogra 27), if the problem occured again, there is something wrong on printers. Responsabile Prestampa Vincenzo Porciello Direct +39 0536 400 229 Mobile +39 348 707 5848 Il giorno 12-03-2008 14:50, Magnus Sandström, [INDIRIZZO] ha scritto: _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en

I suspect some problem on printer or media/inks. If you try with another profile and there is again the problem, we are sure that is not problem on SW or profiles. Also, have you another instruments for measure ? ----------------------------------- Vincenzo Porciello Responsabile Pre-Press MHP S.r.l. 41040 Ubersetto Fiorano (MO), Italy Via XXV Aprile, 11 ----------------------------------- tel. +39 0536.9217361 fax +39 0536.927392 ----------------------------------- http://www.fotomodo.it mailto:vincenzo@fotomodo.it Il giorno 12-03-2008 16:05, Magnus Sandström, [INDIRIZZO] ha scritto: > You mean that I just should change the targets to Fogra 27? Dont > get why that would do any differens.. The Delta E between Fogra 27 > och Fogra 39 is about 3 Delta E, not that much.. > > > / Magnus > > 12 mar 2008 kl. 15.10 skrev Vincenzo - MHP: > >> Try with another color profile (for example Fogra 27), if the >> problem >> occured again, there is something wrong on printers. >> >> Responsabile Prestampa Vincenzo Porciello >> Direct +39 0536 400 229 >> Mobile +39 348 707 5848 >> >> Il giorno 12-03-2008 14:50, Magnus Sandström, [INDIRIZZO] ha >> scritto: >> >>> Hi Nicolas, >>> >>> Yes, I dont know why it came up again (wasnt me..) The Issue is >>> still >>> present but not as bad as before (9 delta E vs 5). So I have not >>> done >>> anything about it yet.. >>> >>> I already got the "profile and calibration kit". I'v done the >>> calibration by the book, twice with the same result, since we got >>> two >>> 9800. The problem is the lack of intensity in magenta (on our >>> paper, >>> witch is not GMG or Fogra certified) The magenta in the MX3 is >>> 97% and >>> in the MX4 its 100%. When I look at GMG profile for our Epson >>> 4000 the >>> magenta is about 97% in both MX3 and MX4 and the Delta E in 100m >>> 100y >>> is 0,3. (same paper). >>> >>> Anyway it's not a huge problem but It would be nice to get those >>> last >>> Delta E's.. >>> >>> >>> / Magnus >>> >>> >>> 12 mar 2008 kl. 14.02 skrev Nico Kirste: >>> >>>> Hello Magnus, >>>> >>>> I have some kind of Déjà-vu. >>>> This thread was discussed one year ago? Is your issue still >>>> present? >>>> >>>> Please download the profile and calibration from the gmg support >>>> website and check if the problem persist after recalibrating the >>>> printer. >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Nicolas Kirste >>>> Product Management >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> GMG GmbH & Co. KG >>>> >>>> Moempelgarder Weg 10 >>>> >>>> D-72072 Tuebingen >>>> >>>> mail to: nico.kirste(a)gmgcolor.com >>>> please visit: www.gmgcolor.com <http://www.gmgcolor.com> >>>> >>>> phone: +49(0)7071-93874-0 >>>> fax: +49(0)7071-93874-22 >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> GMG is a leading developer of high-end color management solutions >>>> with more than 8,000 systems in use across the industry spectrum >>>> by >>>> ad-agencies, prepress houses, offset printers and international >>>> gravure printers. >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> This e-mail and all attachments are confidential and may be >>>> privileged. If you have received this e-mail in error, notify the >>>> sender immediately. Do not use, disseminate, store or copy it in >>>> any >>>> way. Statements or opinions in this e-mail or any attachment are >>>> those of the author and are not necessarily agreed or authorised >>>> by >>>> GMG GmbH & Co KG. GMG may monitor emails sent or received for >>>> operational or business reasons as permitted by law. GMG accepts >>>> no >>>> liability for viruses introduced by this e-mail or attachments. >>>> You >>>> should employ virus checking software. >>>> >>>> GMG GmbH & Co. KG . Registered Office: Tuebingen . Registered in >>>> Tuebingen, Germany at Stuttgart Local Court, No. HRA 381463 >>>> General Partner: GMG Verwaltung GmbH . Managing Directors: Joerg >>>> Weihing, Robert Weihing . Registered in Tuebingen, Germany at >>>> Stuttgart Local Court, No. HRB 382505 >>>> Banking affiliation: Volksbank Filder eG, Account No: 65 000 005, >>>> BLZ 611 616 96, IBAN: DE65 6116 1696 0065 0000 05, >>>> SWIFT: GENODES1NHB, VAT-ID No: DE 230 302 334 >>>> >>>> >>>> ________________________________ >>>> >>>> Von: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>>> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com >>>> ] Im Auftrag von Magnus Sandström >>>> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 12. März 2008 13:17 >>>> An: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>>> Betreff: Re: [ECI-EN] Proofing Fogra39 with epson 9800 >>>> >>>> >>>> Without any recalibration were now down to 5,2 Delta E in 100m and >>>> 100y, so maybe we got som bad Ink-batch? :S >>>> >>>> Anyway there must be some reason for the new Vivid Magenta in the >>>> new Epson *880-series. :) gonna buy one soon. >>>> >>>> / Magnus >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> 12 feb 2008 kl. 10.27 skrev venkata Ramana: >>>> >>>> >>>> Dear Breton >>>> >>>> Paper substrate might be the reason. >>>> >>>> Also re-calibrate the printer and optimize the MX3 file >>>> >>>> Regards >>>> >>>> Venkat >>>> RSG >>>> >>>> >>>> On 3/5/07 5:46 PM, "Roger Breton" &lt;graxx(a)videotron.ca&gt; >>>> wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Hi, we are testing out an Epson 9800 right >>>> now and were having some issues. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> The red (100%y 100%m) Doesnt get red >>>> enough. >>>> To low intensity. And the Delta >>>> >>>> >>>> E >>>> >>>> >>>> value landing on 9! All other colors are >>>> good. Im been searching the net but >>>> >>>> >>>> havent found anything about this. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Im using GMG Colorproof and Fogra39 values. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Any ideas whats wrong? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> This might be th wrong forum to ask about >>>> this but I'll give it a go anyway. >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Magnus Sandström >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> DeltaE 9 is quite high. Which media are you using? >>>> Did you compare your full >>>> >>>> >>>> gamut to your iterated gamut in a 3D gamut viewer >>>> application to see whether >>>> >>>> >>>> the full gamut does indeed enclose the 100%y 100Ym? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Which instrument? >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> MfG, >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> Roger Breton | Laval, Canada | graxx(a)videotron.ca >>>> >>>> >>>> http://pages.infinit.net/graxx >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> >>>> >>>> ECI-EN mailing list >>>> >>>> >>>> ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>>> >>>> >>>> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ECI-EN mailing list >>>> ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>>> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> _______________________________________________ >>>> ECI-EN mailing list >>>> ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>>> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >>> >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> ECI-EN mailing list >>> ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com >>> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en >>> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> ECI-EN mailing list >> ECI-EN(a)lists.callassoftware.com >> http://lists.callassoftware.com/mailman/listinfo/eci-en > > > > <image.jpg>