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>> Yes, using RelCol and BPC, within an automated RGB to CMYK workflow, gives
>> the best results with these profiles.
>>
>> Paul Sherfield
>
> Still purplish blues you say?
>
> Roger Breton
Hi again Roger
We tested the Basicolor v2 coated profile against the ECI version on a
number of Adobe RGB images were the blue to purple issue had been commented
upon by the design team.
We reviewed the images, separated from Adobe RGB to both profiles and
proofed on an GMG driven Epson.
The Basicolor profile improved the blues in question and some reds.
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Paul Sherfield
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> Could we possibly share some test images? I'm thinking of the roman16 'blue'
> image among others. I could send you a lo-res RGB image (in eciRGB) and
> you'd convert it using basICcolor v2 coated profiles and I'll convert mine
> using PrintOpen ISOCoatedv2. Then you can send me your converted images and
> I'll post them on my web site for anyone to review. I'm really interested in
> pursuing this issue.
Hi Roger
Happy to help with any tests, you can get the profile, free, from this site
and use it yourself also.
http://www.colormanagement.org/index_en.html
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> I never saw printed samples which are not useable or sellable when a) printing
> to the ISO standards colorant values and tvi curves and when b) preparing and
> separating carefully images or graphics before printing.
HI
Just a comment re the above. I think the clients attitude to the 'blue to
purple' issue with the ECI based v2 profiles depends on their market and
their own colour quality issues.
I have used and recommended the Basicolor v2 profiles to some demanding
clients who have seen the improvement in RGB to CMYK conversations in the
saturated RGB blue and red areas.
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>> I have used and recommended the Basicolor v2 profiles to some demanding
>> clients who have seen the improvement in RGB to CMYK conversations in the
>> saturated RGB blue and red areas.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Paul Sherfield
>
> Are using RelCol a lot? Using Perc which the suggested RI for images does
> not quite map blues and reds the same. Have you found that?
>
> Roger Breton
>
Hi Roger
Yes, using RelCol and BPC, within an automated RGB to CMYK workflow, gives
the best results with these profiles.
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The concerns some have in regards to the ISO_Coatedv2_eci profile
revolve around issues of gamut mapping and smoothness, in particular out
of gamut blues tend to reproduce rather purplish when converted using
this profile with the relative/Absolute rendering intents (not so much
with perceptual). This issue isn't always manifested in images, but it
can be a concern in some cases. There are other sources of profiles
created from the Fogra39 dataset (www.colormanagement.org for one) that
minimize this issue, or you could create your own if you have the means
and if you deem this problematic for you.
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>>> Hello
>>>
>>> I'm working as free lance in France, i've got a scitex scan and an
>>> Epson 4800 with a best Designer for printer.
>>> I work as long as possible in RGB and i convert at the end in CMYK,
>>> i used euroscale coated and changed for isocoated ECI 2 years ago
>>> and it seemed to be better.
>>> But today i've heard that the isocoated and new isocoated V2 wasn't
>>> a good profil for converted my RGB imaged (working space eci RGB
>>> V2) in CMYK ? and that it's just a profil of "simulation" for the
>>> printer !
>>>
>>> Is it true ? and should i use a profil like the new isocoated
>>> frogra39 for the coated paper i use generaly.
>>>
>>> I've made a lot of test and print a lot of book without any problem
>>> with a lot of printer, i was estonished.
>>>
>>> Can you help me ?
>>>
>>> sinceraly, bruno
