Hello Jouni, generally, System Brunner (quality control system) is *not* providing specific standard printing conditions (like given with ISO 12647-2:2004). No target values, e.g. CIELAB solids, are recommended. System Brunner is focussing on (a set of) TVI curves and on printing densities. Materials (paper, ink) and process produce the TVI curve (check), mopdular grey balance elements are used for process control. Kind Regards Karl Michael Meinecke Bundesverband Druck und Medien e.V. (bvdm) German Printing and Media Industries Federation (bvdm) Biebricher Allee 79 | D-65187 Wiesbaden Postfach 18 69 | D-65008 Wiesbaden Fon +49(0)611 - 80 31 68 | Fax +49(0)611 - 80 32 68 mailto:km@bvdm-online.de | URL www.bvdm.org ------------------------------------------------------ ATS | Altona Test Suite Application Kit www.altonatestsuite.com DPF 2004 | Digitalproof-Forum 2004 www.digitalproof-forum.de bvdm-Publikationen recherchieren und bestellen http://www.point-online.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: Marttila Jouni [mailto:Jouni.Marttila@m-real.com] Gesendet: Freitag, 11. Februar 2005 10:19 An: 'eci-en(a)lists.transmedia.de' Betreff: [ECI-EN] System Brunner Eurostandard compared to ISO 12647-2 Hello As I have understood many Digital Cromalins uses Brunner Eurostandard for press simulation. Does anyone have info how close this is if ISOcoated or ISOwebcoated are used for press simulation and what the main differencies are? Have anyone who uses digital cromalin printed out ECI2002 chart using eurostandard simulation? - if so would it be possible to get the data. This way comparison to ISOcoated should be easy if my thinking here is correct BR Jouni Marttila _________________________________________ Jouni Marttila Project Manager M-real Corporation Technology Centre Kirkniemi FIN-08800 KIRKNIEMI Finland Tel: +358 (0)10 464 2908 Fax: +358 (0)10 464 2412 Mobile: +358 (0)50 381 9085 Email: jouni.marttila(a)m-real.com www.m-real.com