On 17 Nov 2004, at 01:56, Paul Sherfield wrote: Well , maybe among the printers, but there are a whole load of photographers who are already proofing to ISO spec. Well.....not exactly. I've spoken with Paul already about the Proof4Press standard ,but as a committee member I am bound by the usual confidences. What I can say is that the PPA is not developing a new standard but have presently adopted one which they have used to their satisfaction for many years and standardising it among the proofing vendors. This is also a target that the printers supplying the PPA's publications have been running their presses to. Also , some (not all) would argue that the Cromalin Eurostandard DP10 fits within ISO 12647 spec .As to non PPA members view on its suitability for it the purpose defined , you must bear in mind that the PPA is its own animal , not an international institution seeking to impose international rules. Irrespective of the perceived pros and cons of the proofing spec, the PPA is one of the few bodies that has had the courage and determination to push for efficient digital workflows by producing a number of initiatives that have materialised as much welcomed workable solutions . The committees are all voluntary , and somewhat unusually consist of members with wide range of skills from the entire production workflow. These members are all all working towards the common goal of an efficient and accurate workflow. It is always a little difficult to deal with hearsay , especially when someone like Paul is so passionate and knowledgeable about the subject, but here goes..... We often come across rumours that are presumably the combined result of some committee members indiscretions and misunderstanding by third parties.My favourite rumour so far is that the PPA are standardising JPEG as their only file submission format! This sort of misinformation is easily spread . In this case it's not so much misinformation as not quite getting the full picture. For the record ,many people on the committee also support and have been pushing for ISO 12647 (many of us have been doing so for quite some time ).It is no secret that ISO standards and the Altona suite are already part of the committee's present research for future proofing standards.We've already been testing the ECI profiles alongside our own custom profiles.Our members are already in constant communication with other industry bodies such as the ECI on standardisation issues. This is along the same lines as the IQA initiative , and falls in line with the open , transparent and non-proprietary standards proposed by DIG many years ago. Trust that this reassures you (all! ). Regards, Bob Marchant.