2:13 p.m.
Hi A Seb,
About devicelink profile for ink saving and ink coverage reduction,
if you want to send file to test the new PerfX Device Link Pro™
software, just let me know.
I am also interested about the essay.
regards,
Louis Dery
TGLC inc.
www.tglc.com
On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:00 AM, eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com
wrote:
IN GENERAL REG THIS STUFF
The base of what I am talking about is of course a serious ICC-
profiling software. In my case the profilegenerator is built-in to
the software.
I have tried a few different programs that claim to "save ink" and/
or convert for example colour standards to press.
Some work some don't. One saved 3% CMY (very useful, LOL). Most of
them "save ink" but some create new colours: of course you can save
ink if you make a blue sky gray... :-)) How much to you save if you
print BW? LOL!
I tried one (I keep to the subject and I avoid to mention names of
software as you have noticed), that do a good job from for example
F39 to F39 but if you alter the setting to F39 to press: crap. For
me that is not very serious. The user can then not adapt the job to
the press but only "save ink". I guess the problem is that the
manufacturer know how to convert but have no knowledge about colour
and printing. They probably made the factory settings with a
serious profiling software from another manufacturer but give no
tools to the user to make their own.
Conclusion reg this: if a software manufacturer can't even make a
decent ICC-profile, conventional or device link, how can they then
make a device link based software that is supposed to convert
colour and "save ink"? ;-)
In other words: when the poorest manufactures of ICC-profiling
softwares make "save ink", "optimal ink" etc solutions: think twice
before you purchase.
Personally I do not talk about "save ink" but about optimal values
for all colours, and no acceptance of colour deviations accept for
1 level in L, + being able to match the colour to the press.
I just presented this at a university where I have supervised a
master student in the subject. I can send the essay from this
engineer for them who wants it, on a personal level (email me).
Cheers
A Seb
*/ Academic traditions in the graphic biz is a interesting subject
itself. I will bring this subject up here soon.
2:24 p.m.
New subject: Re : ECI-EN Digest, Vol 26, Issue 6
Hello everyone,
Can you tell us which software you use or you try?
I'm running actually with a workflow who integrates device link profile.
And it work very well.
Kinds regards.
Axel ROBERT | Print Quality Manager |
Tel: +33 (0)1 48 18 52 03 | Cell: +33 (0)6 68 83 34 67
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Le 17/04/08 14:13, « Louis Dery » <ldery(a)tglc.com> a écrit :
Hi A Seb,
About devicelink profile for ink saving and ink coverage reduction,
if you want to send file to test the new PerfX Device Link Pro
software, just let me know.
I am also interested about the essay.
regards,
Louis Dery
TGLC inc.
www.tglc.com
On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:00 AM, eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com
wrote:
IN GENERAL REG THIS STUFF
The base of what I am talking about is of course a serious ICC-
profiling software. In my case the profilegenerator is built-in to
the software.
I have tried a few different programs that claim to "save ink" and/
or convert for example colour standards to press.
Some work some don't. One saved 3% CMY (very useful, LOL). Most of
them "save ink" but some create new colours: of course you can save
ink if you make a blue sky gray... :-)) How much to you save if you
print BW? LOL!
I tried one (I keep to the subject and I avoid to mention names of
software as you have noticed), that do a good job from for example
F39 to F39 but if you alter the setting to F39 to press: crap. For
me that is not very serious. The user can then not adapt the job to
the press but only "save ink". I guess the problem is that the
manufacturer know how to convert but have no knowledge about colour
and printing. They probably made the factory settings with a
serious profiling software from another manufacturer but give no
tools to the user to make their own.
Conclusion reg this: if a software manufacturer can't even make a
decent ICC-profile, conventional or device link, how can they then
make a device link based software that is supposed to convert
colour and "save ink"? ;-)
In other words: when the poorest manufactures of ICC-profiling
softwares make "save ink", "optimal ink" etc solutions: think twice
before you purchase.
Personally I do not talk about "save ink" but about optimal values
for all colours, and no acceptance of colour deviations accept for
1 level in L, + being able to match the colour to the press.
I just presented this at a university where I have supervised a
master student in the subject. I can send the essay from this
engineer for them who wants it, on a personal level (email me).
Cheers
A Seb
*/ Academic traditions in the graphic biz is a interesting subject
itself. I will bring this subject up here soon.
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2:32 p.m.
New subject: Re : ECI-EN Digest, Vol 26, Issue 6
Im interested in the ink save comments, please forward the essay.
Regards
Lance
lance.blizzard(a)uk.agimedia.com
On 17/4/08 13:24, "Axel Robert" <axel.robert(a)ubisoft.com> wrote:
Hello everyone,
Can you tell us which software you use or you try?
I'm running actually with a workflow who integrates device link profile.
And it work very well.
Kinds regards.
Axel ROBERT | Print Quality Manager |
Tel: +33 (0)1 48 18 52 03 | Cell: +33 (0)6 68 83 34 67
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Le 17/04/08 14:13, « Louis Dery » <ldery(a)tglc.com> a écrit :
Kind Regards
Lance Blizzard
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> Hi A Seb,
>
> About devicelink profile for ink saving and ink coverage reduction,
> if you want to send file to test the new PerfX Device Link Pro
> software, just let me know.
>
> I am also interested about the essay.
>
> regards,
>
> Louis Dery
> TGLC inc.
> www.tglc.com
>
>
> On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:00 AM, eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> wrote:
> >>
> >> IN GENERAL REG THIS STUFF
> >> The base of what I am talking about is of course a serious ICC-
> >> profiling software. In my case the profilegenerator is built-in to
> >> the software.
> >> I have tried a few different programs that claim to "save ink"
and/
> >> or convert for example colour standards to press.
> >> Some work some don't. One saved 3% CMY (very useful, LOL). Most of
> >> them "save ink" but some create new colours: of course you can
save
> >> ink if you make a blue sky gray... :-)) How much to you save if you
> >> print BW? LOL!
> >> I tried one (I keep to the subject and I avoid to mention names of
> >> software as you have noticed), that do a good job from for example
> >> F39 to F39 but if you alter the setting to F39 to press: crap. For
> >> me that is not very serious. The user can then not adapt the job to
> >> the press but only "save ink". I guess the problem is that the
> >> manufacturer know how to convert but have no knowledge about colour
> >> and printing. They probably made the factory settings with a
> >> serious profiling software from another manufacturer but give no
> >> tools to the user to make their own.
> >> Conclusion reg this: if a software manufacturer can't even make a
> >> decent ICC-profile, conventional or device link, how can they then
> >> make a device link based software that is supposed to convert
> >> colour and "save ink"? ;-)
> >> In other words: when the poorest manufactures of ICC-profiling
> >> softwares make "save ink", "optimal ink" etc solutions:
think twice
> >> before you purchase.
> >>
> >> Personally I do not talk about "save ink" but about optimal
values
> >> for all colours, and no acceptance of colour deviations accept for
> >> 1 level in L, + being able to match the colour to the press.
> >>
> >> I just presented this at a university where I have supervised a
> >> master student in the subject. I can send the essay from this
> >> engineer for them who wants it, on a personal level (email me).
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> A Seb
> >>
> >> */ Academic traditions in the graphic biz is a interesting subject
> >> itself. I will bring this subject up here soon.
> >>
> >>
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Hi A Seb,
I’m interested about the essay,
Please send a copy to me.
Thank you
Marcus Tang ▪ Technical Manager
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Hi A Seb,
About devicelink profile for ink saving and ink coverage reduction,
if you want to send file to test the new PerfX Device Link Pro™
software, just let me know.
I am also interested about the essay.
regards,
Louis Dery
TGLC inc.
www.tglc.com
On Apr 17, 2008, at 6:00 AM, eci-en-request(a)lists.callassoftware.com
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IN GENERAL REG THIS STUFF
The base of what I am talking about is of course a
serious ICC-
profiling software. In my case the profilegenerator is
built-in to
the software.
I have tried a few different programs that claim to
"save ink" and/
or convert for example colour standards to press.
Some work some don't. One saved 3% CMY (very
useful, LOL). Most of
them "save ink" but some create new colours:
of course you can save
ink if you make a blue sky gray... :-)) How much to
you save if you
print BW? LOL!
I tried one (I keep to the subject and I avoid to
mention names of
software as you have noticed), that do a good job from
for example
F39 to F39 but if you alter the setting to F39 to
press: crap. For
me that is not very serious. The user can then not
adapt the job to
the press but only "save ink". I guess the
problem is that the
manufacturer know how to convert but have no knowledge
about colour
and printing. They probably made the factory settings
with a
serious profiling software from another manufacturer
but give no
tools to the user to make their own.
Conclusion reg this: if a software manufacturer
can't even make a
decent ICC-profile, conventional or device link, how
can they then
make a device link based software that is supposed to
convert
colour and "save ink"? ;-)
In other words: when the poorest manufactures of
ICC-profiling
softwares make "save ink", "optimal
ink" etc solutions: think twice
before you purchase.
Personally I do not talk about "save ink"
but about optimal values
for all colours, and no acceptance of colour
deviations accept for
1 level in L, + being able to match the colour to the
press.
I just presented this at a university where I have
supervised a
master student in the subject. I can send the essay
from this
engineer for them who wants it, on a personal level
(email me).
Cheers
A Seb
*/ Academic traditions in the graphic biz is a
interesting subject
itself. I will bring this subject up here soon.
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