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Re: RGB to CMYK for silk-screen printing (Blandine Soulage) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 11:51:50 -0000 From: contact(a)blandinesoulage.com Subject: [ECI-EN] RGB to CMYK for silk-screen printing To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Message-ID: &lt;170488751042.1353.8242722365704833952(a)lists.callassoftware.com&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8" Hello, I'm a French visual artist working with silk-screen printing seeking for advice. When I convert my RGB files to CMYK, I lose a lot of color data and radiance. I use the Web coated swop 2006 profile to convert from RGB to CMYK. Which colorimetric profile should I use to reduce data loss during conversion? What about converting with a “multichannel” profile? Apparently it's also possible to use "Edit/Convert to profile/Custom CMYK", but I don't know what the values to be assigned correspond to. I work in 2, 3 or 4 color process using layer separation in Photoshop. I then recreate my CMYK manually by making my own inks. Sometimes modifying them. For example, I use fluorescent colors or a dark blue instead of a cyan.... Once the conversion is made, the CMYK profile that i use should thus be wide enough so that my simulations are as close as possible to the rendering I will get with my inks. Thank you for very much for your help ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 08:04:34 -0500 From: &lt;graxx(a)videotron.ca&gt; Subject: [ECI-EN] Re: RGB to CMYK for silk-screen printing To: &lt;eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com&gt; Message-ID: &lt;0c6b01da43c5$8f3897c0$ada9c740$(a)videotron.ca&gt; Content-Type: text/plain; charset="UTF-8" Try using one of the GRACoL Coated family of ICC profiles. You'll be retaining a bit more "RGB colors", this way. But you're essentially at the mercy of silk-screen printing. If your artwork allows and your printer is able to use inks other than process colors, you will get more of your work by manually converting to Spot colors. Instead of printing with CMYK inks, you'd be printing with 4 or more, say, PANTONE colors, including those fluorescent colors you mentioned. This approach is likely to cost more, in terms of printing. It's a more complex process but, depending on your artwork, very well worth it. / Roger Breton -----Original Message----- From: contact(a)blandinesoulage.com &lt;contact(a)blandinesoulage.com&gt; Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 6:52 AM To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Subject: [ECI-EN] RGB to CMYK for silk-screen printing Hello, I'm a French visual artist working with silk-screen printing seeking for advice. When I convert my RGB files to CMYK, I lose a lot of color data and radiance. I use the Web coated swop 2006 profile to convert from RGB to CMYK. Which colorimetric profile should I use to reduce data loss during conversion? What about converting with a “multichannel” profile? Apparently it's also possible to use "Edit/Convert to profile/Custom CMYK", but I don't know what the values to be assigned correspond to. I work in 2, 3 or 4 color process using layer separation in Photoshop. I then recreate my CMYK manually by making my own inks. Sometimes modifying them. For example, I use fluorescent colors or a dark blue instead of a cyan.... Once the conversion is made, the CMYK profile that i use should thus be wide enough so that my simulations are as close as possible to the rendering I will get with my inks. Thank you for very much for your help _______________________________________________ ECI-EN mailing list -- eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com To unsubscribe send an email to eci-en-leave(a)lists.callassoftware.com %(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)s/%(_internal_name)s ------------------------------ Date: Wed, 10 Jan 2024 16:15:43 +0100 From: Blandine Soulage &lt;contact(a)blandinesoulage.com&gt; Subject: [ECI-EN] Re: RGB to CMYK for silk-screen printing To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com Message-ID: &lt;C2D28567-4309-42AC-A36F-FDF068A8163B(a)blandinesoulage.com&gt; Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="Apple-Mail=_210A938F-0387-443C-A8AA-50A5515B41A8" --Apple-Mail=_210A938F-0387-443C-A8AA-50A5515B41A8 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Dear Roger, Thank you very much for your precious response.=20 Do you actually speak French? I would be very interested in learning to convert from RVB to Spot = colors since I actually print my artwork manually with silkscreen = printing and making my own ink. Thank you for your help and have a lovely day, Blandine =EF=BF=BC --------------------------------------------------- auteur photographe affili=C3=A9e =C3=A0 l=E2=80=99Agessa siret : 499 958 106 00035 06.79.40.84.45 http://www.blandinesoulage.com <http://www.blandinesoulage.com/> &lt;graxx(a)videotron.ca&gt; a =C3=A9crit : process colors, you will get more of your work by manually converting to = Spot colors. Instead of printing with CMYK inks, you'd be printing with = 4 or more, say, PANTONE colors, including those fluorescent colors you = mentioned. more complex process but, depending on your artwork, very well worth it. for advice. radiance. conversion? CMYK", but I don't know what the values to be assigned correspond to. I then recreate my CMYK manually by making my own inks. Sometimes = modifying them. For example, I use fluorescent colors or a dark blue = instead of a cyan.... be wide enough so that my simulations are as close as possible to the = rendering I will get with my inks.=20 send an email to eci-en-leave(a)lists.callassoftware.com --Apple-Mail=_210A938F-0387-443C-A8AA-50A5515B41A8 Content-Type: multipart/related; type="text/html"; boundary="Apple-Mail=_7187A613-CA66-4352-9575-A3974373164F" --Apple-Mail=_7187A613-CA66-4352-9575-A3974373164F Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Type: text/html; charset=utf-8 <html><head><meta http-equiv=3D"content-type" content=3D"text/html; = charset=3Dutf-8"></head><body style=3D"overflow-wrap: break-word; = -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; line-break: after-white-space;">Dear = Roger,<div><br></div><div>Thank you very much for your precious = response.&nbsp;</div><div><br></div><div>Do you actually speak = French?</div><div><br></div><div>I would be very interested in learning = to convert from RVB to Spot colors since I actually print my artwork = manually with silkscreen printing and making my own = ink.</div><div><br></div><div>Thank you for your help and have a lovely = day,</div><div><br></div><div>Blandine</div><div><br><div><br = id=3D"lineBreakAtBeginningOfMessage"><div> <span><img alt=3D"signature2.jpg" = src=3D"cid:9A3B9E70-5090-4840-A781-EA059580883D"></span><br = class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline" style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: 'Euphemia UCAS'; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><span = style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Euphemia UCAS'; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: = auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; float: none; display: inline = !important;">---------------------------------------------------</span><br= style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); font-family: 'Euphemia UCAS'; font-size: = 12px; font-style: normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: = normal; letter-spacing: normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; = text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: = auto; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; = -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><font color=3D"#797979" = style=3D"font-family: 'Euphemia UCAS'; font-size: 12px; font-style: = normal; font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: = normal; orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; = text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: = 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: = 0px;">auteur photographe affili=C3=A9e =C3=A0&nbsp;l=E2=80=99Agessa<br>sir= et : 499 958 106 00035</font><div style=3D"color: rgb(0, 0, 0); = font-family: 'Euphemia UCAS'; font-size: 12px; font-style: normal; = font-variant-caps: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; = orphans: auto; text-align: start; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: = none; white-space: normal; widows: auto; word-spacing: 0px; = -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px;"><font = color=3D"#797979">06.79.40.84.45<br></font><div style=3D"word-wrap: = break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: = after-white-space;"><a href=3D"http://www.blandinesoulage.com"><font = color=3D"#797979">http://www.blandinesoulage.com</font></a></div></div> </div> <div><br><blockquote type=3D"cite"><div>Le 10 janv. 2024 =C3=A0 14:04, = &amp;lt;graxx(a)videotron.ca&amp;gt; &amp;lt;graxx(a)videotron.ca&amp;gt; a =C3=A9crit = :</div><br class=3D"Apple-interchange-newline"><div><div>Try using one = of the GRACoL Coated family of ICC profiles.<br>You'll be retaining a = bit more "RGB colors", this way.<br>But you're essentially at the mercy = of silk-screen printing.<br><br>If your artwork allows and your printer = is able to use inks other than process colors, you will get more of your = work by manually converting to Spot colors. Instead of printing with = CMYK inks, you'd be printing with 4 or more, say, PANTONE colors, = including those fluorescent colors you mentioned.<br><br>This approach = is likely to cost more, in terms of printing. It's a more complex = process but, depending on your artwork, very well worth it.<br><br>/ = Roger Breton <br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: = contact(a)blandinesoulage.com &amp;lt;contact(a)blandinesoulage.com&amp;gt; = <br>Sent: Wednesday, January 10, 2024 6:52 AM<br>To: = eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com&lt;br&gt;Subjectubject: [ECI-EN] RGB to CMYK for = silk-screen printing<br><br>Hello,<br><br>I'm a French visual artist = working with silk-screen printing seeking for advice.<br><br>When I = convert my RGB files to CMYK, I lose a lot of color data and = radiance.<br><br>I use the Web coated swop 2006 profile to convert from = RGB to CMYK.<br>Which colorimetric profile should I use to reduce data = loss during conversion?<br>What about converting with a = =E2=80=9Cmultichannel=E2=80=9D profile?<br>Apparently it's also possible = to use "Edit/Convert to profile/Custom CMYK", but I don't know what the = values to be assigned correspond to.<br><br>I work in 2, 3 or 4 color = process using layer separation in Photoshop. I then recreate my CMYK = manually by making my own inks. Sometimes modifying them. For example, I = use fluorescent colors or a dark blue instead of a cyan....<br>Once the = conversion is made, the CMYK profile that i use should thus be wide = enough so that my simulations are as close as possible to the rendering = I will get with my inks. <br><br>Thank you for very much for your = help<br>_______________________________________________<br>ECI-EN = mailing list -- eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com To unsubscribe send an = email to = eci-en-leave(a)lists.callassoftware.com&lt;br&gt;%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)= s/%(_internal_name)s<br>_______________________________________________<br= unsubscribe send an email to = eci-en-leave(a)lists.callassoftware.com&lt;br&gt;%(web_page_url)slistinfo%(cgiext)= s/%(_internal_name)s<br></div></div></blockquote></div><br></div></div></b= ody></html>= --Apple-Mail=_7187A613-CA66-4352-9575-A3974373164F Content-Transfer-Encoding: base64 Content-Disposition: inline; filename=signature2.jpg Content-Type: image/jpeg; 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