3:56 p.m.
Hi Roger and Mark
It will work. I use it a lot with clients custom .csf files which they
provide totheir clients. As I said you only need to load the profiles if
you need house them in non Adobe software. But I always load them too
just in case¹ ;-)
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>It should work, Mark.
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>
>
>Maybe we should make a test together? You send me a CSF and I send you a
>CSF.
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>/ Roger
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>Hi,
>
>Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the
>profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise
>there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?
>
>A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF +
>ICC-profile.
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>Hi
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>Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
>
>with the file size of the profiles within the ?csf. For instance the
>
>profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
>
>around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!
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>
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>So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.
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>From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast(a)liu.se
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>Well,
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>If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
>
>v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
>
>beeing different in file size.
>
>The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
>
>WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
>
>CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
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>i?s only a guess?
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>Hello Adobe?
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> 1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
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> 2015.4 (Roger Breton)
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> From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca
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>
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>
> InDesign CC
>
>2015.4
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>
>
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
>
>only
>
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
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> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
>
>InDesign CC
>
> 2015.4
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
>
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
>
>you
>
> achive that?
>
>
>
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> Matthias Wessman
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> <mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of Chris
>
>Murphy
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> <lists(a)colorremedies.com <mailto:lists@colorremedies.com>
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
>
>CC
>
> 2015.4
>
>
>
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> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
>
><louisenylund(a)hotmail.com <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
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> <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
>
>
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
>
>downloaded
>
>
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
>
>following
>
>
>
> error message:
>
>
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
>
>Default
>
>
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
>
>file, but
>
>
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
>
>settings
>
>
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
>
>problem
>
>
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
>
>anything to
>
>
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
>
>agency
>
>
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
>
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
>
>get
>
>
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
>
>Coated
>
>
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
>
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
>
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
>
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
>
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
>
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
>
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
>
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
>
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
>
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
>
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
>
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
>
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
>
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
>
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
>
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
>
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
>
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
>
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