Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
by Tobias Trofast
Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but i’s only a guess…
Hello Adobe?
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1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Roger Breton)
2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
From: "Roger Breton" <graxx(a)videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC 2015.4
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That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only
includes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
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?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
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From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak(a)gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
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Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx(a)videotron.ca> wrote:
> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only
> includes the ?name? of the profiles.
>
>
>
> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
>
>
>
> / Roger Breton
>
>
>
> From: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias
> Wessman
> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
> To: eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com
> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> Hi Chris,
>
> I was curious on your mention that:
>
>
>
> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
>
>
>
> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you
> achive that?
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> Matthias Wessman
>
> Tech Support Prepress
>
>
>
>
>
> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of Chris Murphy
> <lists(a)colorremedies.com>
> Svara till: "eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com"
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> Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48
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> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
> 2015.4
>
>
>
> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> Hi!
>
>
>
>
>
> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded
>
> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following
>
> error message:
>
> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default
>
> values will be used instead."
>
>
>
> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but
>
> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings
>
> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
>
>
>
> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem
>
> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
>
>
>
> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to
>
> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
>
>
>
> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency
>
> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
>
> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get
>
> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated
>
> v2 300% (ECI)?
>
>
>
> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
>
>
>
>
>
> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
>
> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
>
> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
>
> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
>
> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
>
>
>
> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
>
> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
>
> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
>
> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
>
> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
>
> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
>
> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
>
> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
>
> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
>
> What created it (application and version)?
>
>
>
> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
>
> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
>
> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
>
> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
>
> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
>
>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Chris Murphy
>
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Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4
by Roger Breton
Thats not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File only
includes the name of the profiles.
Unless Ive been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
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Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can you
achive that?
Matthias Wessman
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Ämne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC
2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund <louisenylund(a)hotmail.com
<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC 2015.4
by Louise Nylund
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have downloaded from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the following error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used. Default values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this file, but they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour settings file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no problem with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has anything to do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design agency that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't get this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
Louise
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