ECI-EN September 2007

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by Ariel S. Reyes

You mentioned particular status e, I and t, will anyone give specifics what are the purpose and difference of all these preset standards? (7 different standards: DIN, DIN NB, ANSI A, ANSI E, ANSI I, ANSI T, SPI.) Thanks... Ariel S. Reyes Scanwell Graphics Corporation Paranaque City, Philippines From: "Ignacio Gaglianone" <IgnacioG(a)bosisio.com.ar> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Spectrophotometer settings To: <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Hello Steeve The Status ANSI of instruments, refer to the filters that it uses. In Argentina, we use ANSI T, which is in accordance with american standards SWOP, GRACoL and G7 method. At ISO 12647-1, Annex A.7 REFLECTANCE FACTOR DENSITIES AND RELATIVE DENSITIES, don?t define any particular status. only say that you must select one from STATUS E, I or T. Anyway, you shall report which standard you have used in your measurements. Regards Ignacio Gaglianone Soporte T?cnico Bosisio e Hijos S.A. (+54 11) 4708-7800, int.121 Today's Topics: 1. Spectrophotometer settings (Steeve Roucaute) 2. Re: Spectrophotometer settings (Ignacio Gaglianone) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 12 Sep 2007 15:44:44 +0100 From: Steeve Roucaute <steeve.roucaute(a)precisionprinting.co.uk> Subject: [ECI-EN] Spectrophotometer settings To: ECI english forum <eci-en(a)lists.callassoftware.com> Message-ID: <C30DB9EC.C563%steeve.roucaute(a)precisionprinting.co.uk> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Hello all, I am trying to take some measurements with a Spectroeye from Gretag Mc Beth and I am confused on which settings to use. I referred to the guide of the Altona Test book which says that the settings to use are D50 illuminant, 2degrees. But it does not say anything about which standard to use, on the Spectroeye there is 7 different standards: DIN, DIN NB, ANSI A, ANSI E, ANSI I, ANSI T, SPI. Does anyone have any idea of which one to use? Thanks, Steeve. -- Steeve Roucaute Reprographic Manager Precision Printing Ltd 47 Thames road Barking Essex IG11 0HQ Tel: 0845 606 4001 Direct line: 0208 911 3167 Fax: 0845 606 4002 www.precisionprinting.com BPIF & Printing World Excellence Awards UK Company of the Year 2007 http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/PrecisionAward1.pdf <http://www.precisionprinting.co.uk/> Also award winning results on FSC approved materials Best Direct Mail Pack at the HSPG 2007 Graphic Design and Print Awards http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/AwardBrief1.pdf The information in this email and any attachment therein is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the email to the sender and delete from your computer. Although Precision Printing Co Ltd attempts to sweep e-mail and attachments for viruses, we do not guarantee that either are free and accept no liability for any damages sustained as a result of viruses. Registered office: 47 Thames Road, Barking, Essex IG11 0HQ, United Kingdom. Registered number: 1466899 ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

16 years, 7 months

Re: [ECI-EN] Spectrophotometer settings

by Ignacio Gaglianone

Hello Steeve The Status ANSI of instruments, refer to the filters that it uses. In Argentina, we use ANSI T, which is in accordance with american standards SWOP, GRACoL and G7 method. At ISO 12647-1, Annex A.7 REFLECTANCE FACTOR DENSITIES AND RELATIVE DENSITIES, don´t define any particular status. only say that you must select one from STATUS E, I or T. Anyway, you shall report which standard you have used in your measurements. Regards Ignacio Gaglianone Soporte Técnico Bosisio e Hijos S.A. (+54 11) 4708-7800, int.121 Visitanos en ENVASE 2007 del 17 al 21 de septiembre del 2007, Stand 119 & 108 ________________________________ De: eci-en-bounces(a)lists.callassoftware.com [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] En nombre de Steeve Roucaute Enviado el: Miércoles, 12 de Septiembre de 2007 11:45 a.m. Para: ECI english forum Asunto: [ECI-EN] Spectrophotometer settings Hello all, I am trying to take some measurements with a Spectroeye from Gretag Mc Beth and I am confused on which settings to use. I referred to the guide of the Altona Test book which says that the settings to use are D50 illuminant, 2degrees. But it does not say anything about which standard to use, on the Spectroeye there is 7 different standards: DIN, DIN NB, ANSI A, ANSI E, ANSI I, ANSI T, SPI. Does anyone have any idea of which one to use? Thanks, Steeve. -- Steeve Roucaute Reprographic Manager Precision Printing Ltd 47 Thames road Barking Essex IG11 0HQ Tel: 0845 606 4001 Direct line: 0208 911 3167 Fax: 0845 606 4002 www.precisionprinting.com BPIF & Printing World Excellence Awards UK Company of the Year 2007 http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/PrecisionAward1.pdf <http://www.precisionprinting.co.uk/> Also award winning results on FSC approved materials Best Direct Mail Pack at the HSPG 2007 Graphic Design and Print Awards http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/AwardBrief1.pdf The information in this email and any attachment therein is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the email to the sender and delete from your computer. Although Precision Printing Co Ltd attempts to sweep e-mail and attachments for viruses, we do not guarantee that either are free and accept no liability for any damages sustained as a result of viruses. Registered office: 47 Thames Road, Barking, Essex IG11 0HQ, United Kingdom. Registered number: 1466899 ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

16 years, 7 months

Spectrophotometer settings

by Steeve Roucaute

Hello all, I am trying to take some measurements with a Spectroeye from Gretag Mc Beth and I am confused on which settings to use. I referred to the guide of the Altona Test book which says that the settings to use are D50 illuminant, 2degrees. But it does not say anything about which standard to use, on the Spectroeye there is 7 different standards: DIN, DIN NB, ANSI A, ANSI E, ANSI I, ANSI T, SPI. Does anyone have any idea of which one to use? Thanks, Steeve. -- Steeve Roucaute Reprographic Manager Precision Printing Ltd 47 Thames road Barking Essex IG11 0HQ Tel: 0845 606 4001 Direct line: 0208 911 3167 Fax: 0845 606 4002 www.precisionprinting.com BPIF & Printing World Excellence Awards UK Company of the Year 2007 http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/PrecisionAward1.pdf <http://www.precisionprinting.co.uk/> Also award winning results on FSC approved materials Best Direct Mail Pack at the HSPG 2007 Graphic Design and Print Awards http://www.precisiononline.co.uk/documents/AwardBrief1.pdf The information in this email and any attachment therein is confidential and for use by the addressee only. If you are not the intended recipient, please return the email to the sender and delete from your computer. Although Precision Printing Co Ltd attempts to sweep e-mail and attachments for viruses, we do not guarantee that either are free and accept no liability for any damages sustained as a result of viruses. Registered office: 47 Thames Road, Barking, Essex IG11 0HQ, United Kingdom. Registered number: 1466899 ________________________________________________________________________ This e-mail has been scanned for all viruses by Star. The service is powered by MessageLabs. For more information on a proactive anti-virus service working around the clock, around the globe, visit: http://www.star.net.uk ________________________________________________________________________

16 years, 7 months

ECI ISO Coated v's Adobe Europe ISO Coated Fogra 27

by Nick Gowler

Dear ECI, Looking for some advice, I have been using color management for our print production for some time now, in particular your ECI-RGB.icc / ISOcoated.icc profiles. However, now that you have released revised versions of both rgb and cmyk profiles, how does this compare to the Adobe profile shipped with their software ?, why should I use your profile over the Adobe profile ? What is the relationship between you and Adobe if any ? Appreciate any help you may be able to offer. -- Regards, Nick Gowler Application & Workflow Support, Production & Content Management, Pearson Education Ltd, Edinburgh Gate, Harlow, Essex, U.K. CM20 2JE email: nick.gowler(a)pearson.com tel: +44 (0)1279 623740 mob: +44 (0)7725 289543 www.pearsoned.co.uk This email may contain confidential material. If you were not an intended recipient, please notify the sender and delete all copies. We may monitor email to and from our network. This email was sent by a company within the corporate group owned by Pearson plc, registered office at 80 Strand, London WC2R 0RL, registered in England and Wales with company number 53723 and VAT number GB 278 5371 21.

16 years, 7 months

*** Register now | Print Media Production Forum (bvdm/ECI) | Con ference 11th to 13th September 2007, Stuttgart

by Meinecke, Karl Michael (bvdm)

*** Print Media Production Forum (bvdm/ECI) - conference devoted to complete digital workflow - 11th to 13th September 2007, Stuttgart The correct handling of data in an end-to-end digital workflow is becoming more and more important in the production of print media. The new "Print Media Production Forum", which will be held for the first time from 11th to 13th September 2007 at the Stuttgart Media University (HdM), reflects this. The conference will cover production in accordance with international standards covering the complete workflow, from Creation and Premedia to PrePress and Print Production. The Forum, which will also include an exhibition, is organized by Bundesverband Druck und Medien e.V. (bvdm) and European Color Initiative (ECI), with the support of Stuttgart Media University (HdM), University of Wuppertal and other European industry organizations. See complete program, registration information: www.print-media-production-forum.de/eng/programm.php Special members rates apply for members of the german printing associations (vdm), the European Color Initiative (ECI) and member federations of the international confederation for printing and allied industries, Intergraf www.intergraf.org such as assografici, BPIF, febelgra, feigraf, ficg, GA, GFF, KVGO, VDM, Viscom, VSD. Register now (also online). See you in Stuttgart! Kind regards Karl Michael Meinecke Bundesverband Druck und Medien e.V. (bvdm) German Printing and Media Industries Federation (bvdm) Biebricher Allee 79 | D-65187 Wiesbaden Fon +49(0)611 - 80 31 68 | Fax +49(0)611 - 80 32 68 mailto:km@bvdm-online.de | URL www.bvdm-online.de ------------------------------------------------------ ATS | Altona Test Suite Application Kit www.altonatestsuite.com PMPF| Print Media Production Forum 2007 www.print-media-production-forum.de R16 | roman16 bvdm Reference Images www.roman16.com MSP | Media Standard Print www.bvdm.org/Aktuelles/Downloads.php

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