How do you set/choose targets for papers
type 2.5?
Also I am wondering why there is no
such type 2.5 paper in ISO yet?
regards,
Juris
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Re: [ECI-EN] paper types and target
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Papertype 2....
I call High quality Silk paper type 2 even if the B values
are more like B-5. Only on these papers can we reach Fogra39 within low
dE.
We have made a custom "Papertype 2.5" category
for all those matt papers wich will give higher dotgain and does not dry
as fast as Silk does. We lower our Densities and reaches aprox 90% gamut
volume of Fogra39 (close to dE5). This way we can also reach TVI A/B without
problems.
We put quite many paper qualities under our "Papertype
2.5" category and measure and calibrate on one of them. We also explain
this to our customers, specially if they want contract proof. There will
be some mismatch when comparing to Fogra39-certified proofs.
Den 24. feb. 2010 kl. 14.10 skrev Juris Valdmanis:
Hello dear list members.
First of all I would like to thank everyone who helped me last time I asked
my questions! Your help was valuable!
But now I have more questions regarding printing to ISO.
In ISO documentation there are Lab target values for primary and secondary
colors for different paper types.
As we are sheet-fed printers we are interested only in paper type 1(gloss
coated), type 2 (matt coated) and type 4 (uncoated white).
As I understood from documentation (I have only an old english version
of ISO 12647-2 and english is not my native language as you may already
realized) all papers what we use for printing I have sorted in these three
types of paper.
But from documentation papers type 1 and type 2 have the same Lab target
values for primary and secondary colors. >From my previous conclusion
papers like fine gloss (with 3 coating layers) and rough matt (with only
one coating layer) have same Lab target values.
No problems with type 1 (gloss) papers, as we can get very close to target
values and densities are ordinary.
But for mate papers (type 2) we have to rise densities to get acceptable
Lab values. It could be understandable as paper surface is rougher and
you have to apply more color to get same saturate colors as on paper type
1.
Problem is that higher densities however lead to different problems in
postpress as paper is not drying well and it smears.
Did I understood correct ISO documentation or am I missing something?
And also I did not find answer to another question: Are Lab target values
for wet or dry colors?