​Hi John,

you do everything right. One question remains: how do you produce the content which is proofed? If they're originated directly from Photoshop (or from InDesign), using the official PSO Coated v3 profile, you see what many other people (including me) see. 

In our practice, we continue to normalize everything into FOGRA 39, then convert the material to FOGRA 51 or 52 with a device link application, to avoid the magenta-ish tint.

Kind regards,

Péter Nagy
Colorcom Media

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Date: Fri, 13 Mar 2020 16:04:23 +0000
From: Studio <studio@dawkinscolour.co.uk>
Subject: [ECI-EN] Fogra51 and 52 looks warmer compared to 39L
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I wonder if you can help me.

We have recently upgraded our Epson proofers and EFI RIP in order to have the facility to produce Fogra certified proofs to 51L and 52L specifications.

Having spent quite a long while creating media profiles for both of these plus 39L, it seems that all Fogra 51 and 52 proofs appear ?warmer? than 39L results.

We have been using 39L for many years now and have superb results. Part of our work is fine art photography reproduction, so accurate colour is essential.

When proofing on our Fogra approved 39L stock, the results are as we would expect. Not so with 51 and 52.

We have a viewing booth fitted with the latest generation VeriVide tubes conforming to ISO 3664:2009 conditions.

All proofs we produce pass Fogra certification with very low deltaE values, but 51 and 52 proofs always differ from 39L.

I have had proofs made by a qualified third party and their results mirror ours.

Could you give me any advice as to whether this problem can be resolved?

Yours Faithfully,

John Bodkin