Dear Hanno, Axel, Paul, and all
We also have been using these profiles for quite a
long, specially for the covers of high quality printed products like wedding
catalogs, automotive magazines, travel guides and art/museum books. We are more
than happy with the results. Not sure about if the matte effect is too strong
in today’s, it is difficult to judge and I haven’t noticed.- Anyway
it is demonstrable that it’s better to make the conversion that don’t
doing it. Otherwise the color shift is too much appreciable.
Just for the record, we use the device link profiles supplied by GMG, but we also
deal with a couple of customers that they take very much care of their own
products, and they are using directly the profiles from the ECI to make really good
color conversions from AdobeRGB to the Glossy/Matte laminate profiles. It is a
matter of time that they will ask for the new profiles based on the new
standard.
I would also take this opportunity to ask a similar
question
Does anyone knows if there will be also a
substitute for FOGRA43 [PSO Coated NPscreen ISO12647 (ECI)] ?
Thank
you, kind regards
ferran
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Dear
Hanno,
I
especially indeed used the matte laminate profile for two years on several
Collector edition packaging.
The
results are very interesting and they surprised many of our printers who have
to deal with these issues until now.
We
did some pre-productions, with and without it, on the same duet paper-ink.
The
only difference has been the re separation with a different DVL.
The
results are unambiguous depending on whether the profile we used.
Without
this profile, the images appear flat with no contrast and they are a little bit
shaded.
With
the profile, however, the images are very close from the contract proof in term
of sharpness and color.
They
even gain on global visual quality.
So,
it has been, for us, a very qualitative leap.
That’s
why I look forward for its update.
We
need to move forward to be coherent with the “new” F51 followed by
our printer and the new ISO 12647-7
If
not, we run the risk to be again inconsistent and not to be able to anticipate.
Regards,
Axel
Axel
Robert | Prepress Manager
Ubisoft
EMEA |Manufacturing
28,
rue Armand Carrel | 93100
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Dear Axel,
your thoughts are correct - they should be adapted.
The shift in paper white and in gradation from F39 to F51 will have an effect
on surface-finished prints too.
There just hasn't been a real demand from the market
to start the effort. This means there is no schedule yet.
But we will discuss this, especially if more people
are backing the request.
Perhaps you, or someone else who uses the profiles in
production, can comment on the current matte laminate profile.
It has been created from many test prints at a time
when matt laminate films were still very matte, so that the laminated prints
were lacking depth.
Is the matte effect too strong for today's production?
Best regards
Hanno
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Dr. Hanno Hoffstadt
Color Scientist
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