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Message: 1Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast@liu.se>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4Message-ID: <A1DF50C9-EF02-40C5-9F1D-27AD2D67CCB8@liu.se>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coatedv3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end upbeeing different in file size.The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, whileWAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator thatCMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, buti?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias TrofastLecturer Graphic Production
ITNSE-601 74 NORRK?PINGPhone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2Please visit us at www.liu.se <http://www.liu.se/>
On 15/08/16 12:59, "eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com on behalf of<eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com on behalf of
Send ECI-EN mailing list submissions toTo subscribe or unsubscribe via the World Wide Web, visitor, via email, send a message with subject or body 'help' toYou can reach the person managing the list atWhen replying, please edit your Subject line so it is more specificthan "Re: Contents of ECI-EN digest..."Today's Topics:1. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC2015.4 (Roger Breton)2. Re: Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign CC2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)----------------------------------------------------------------------Message: 1Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400From: "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC 2015.4Message-ID: <01a301d1f6e0$49f38ba0$dddaa2e0$@videotron.ca>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings Fileonlyincludes the ?name? of the profiles.Unless I?ve been missing something all that time./ Roger Breton[mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of MatthiasWessmanSent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AMSubject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC2015.4Hi Chris,I was curious on your mention that:?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, whichmakes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobeapplications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How canyouachive that?Matthias WessmanTech Support Prepress<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of ChrisMurphySvara till: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.comDatum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesignCC2015.4On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:Hi!I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I havedownloadedfrom the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get thefollowingerror message:"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.Defaultvalues will be used instead."I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with thisfile, butthey cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the coloursettingsfile is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have noproblemwith it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this hasanything todo with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic designagencythat I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to makechanges to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can'tgetthis file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISOCoatedv2 300% (ECI)?I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because ifthe problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settingsfile) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message issufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There aretwo ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-upmenu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button inthe Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancelbutton). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, whichmakes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobeapplications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with theCSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?What created it (application and version)?If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in theworking spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because thisis an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't thinkthe answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don'treally understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.--Chris Murphy_______________________________________________ECI-EN mailing list-------------- next part --------------An HTML attachment was scrubbed...URL:62df/attachment-0001.html------------------------------Message: 2Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak@gmail.com>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC 2015.4Message-ID:Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.KamilOn Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx@videotron.ca>wrote:> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color SettingsFile only> includes the ?name? of the profiles.>>>> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.>>>> / Roger Breton>>>> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf OfMatthias> Wessman> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC> 2015.4>>>> Hi Chris,>> I was curious on your mention that:>>>> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which>> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe>> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?>>>> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How canyou> achive that?>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessman>> Tech Support Prepress>>>>>> Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of ChrisMurphy> Svara till: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"> Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48> Till: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC> 2015.4>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund> wrote:>> Hi!>>>>>> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I havedownloaded>> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get thefollowing>> error message:>> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.Default>> values will be used instead.">>>> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with thisfile, but>> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the coloursettings>> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.>>>> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have noproblem>> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they areusing.>>>> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this hasanything to>> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?>>>> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic designagency>> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able tomake>> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If Ican't get>> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISOCoated>> v2 300% (ECI)?>>>> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.>>>>>> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a>> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, becauseif>> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings>> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is>> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.>>>> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are>> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up>> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in>> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel>> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which>> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe>> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.>> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the>> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of thatCSF?>> What created it (application and version)?>>>> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the>> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug becausethis>> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think>> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't>> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.>>>>>> -->> Chris Murphy>> _______________________________________________>> ECI-EN mailing list>>>>>>> _______________________________________________> ECI-EN mailing list>------------------------------_______________________________________________ECI-EN mailing listEnd of ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4*************************************
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Message: 2Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000From: Axel Robert <axel.robert@ubisoft.com>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4Message-ID: <6F4E134E-E153-4828-A202-AE27DB08611E@ubisoft.com>Content-Type: text/plain; charset="utf-8"
Hello all!I agree with Tobias.Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization datain L*a*b* and XYZ.In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?
Axel
Axel Robert | UBISOFTPrepress quality manager
From: <eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of TobiasTrofast <tobias.trofast@liu.se>Reply-To: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"Date: lundi 15 ao?t 2016 13:16Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
Well,
If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coatedv3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end upbeeing different in file size.The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, whileWAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator thatCMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, buti?s only a guess?
Hello Adobe?
Best regards
Tobias TrofastLecturer Graphic Production
ITNSE-601 74 NORRK?PINGPhone: +46 (0)11-36 31 96Visiting address: Campus Norrk?ping, House K2Please visit us at www.liu.se <http://www.liu.se/>
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Message: 1Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400From: "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC 2015.4To:Message-ID:Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings Fileonlyincludes the ?name? of the profiles.
Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
/ Roger Breton
From:software.com>[mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of MatthiasWessmanSent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AMTo:Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC2015.4
Hi Chris,
I was curious on your mention that:
?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How canyouachive that?
Matthias Wessman
Tech Support Prepress
Fr?n:ssoftware.com><mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> > on behalf of ChrisMurphySvara till:Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48Till:?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesignCC2015.4
On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
Hi!
I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I havedownloaded
from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get thefollowing
error message:
"Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.Default
values will be used instead."
I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with thisfile, but
they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the coloursettings
file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have noproblem
with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this hasanything to
do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic designagency
that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can'tget
this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISOCoated
v2 300% (ECI)?
I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
*.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
What created it (application and version)?
If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
--
Chris Murphy
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Message: 2Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200From: Kamil TresnakSubject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC 2015.4To:Message-ID:Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
Kamil
On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton> That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color SettingsFile only> includes the ?name? of the profiles.>>>> Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.>>>> / Roger Breton>>>> From:software.com>> [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf OfMatthias> Wessman> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM> To:> Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC> 2015.4>>>> Hi Chris,>> I was curious on your mention that:>>>> ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which>> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe>> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?>>>> I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How canyou> achive that?>>>>>>>>>>>> Matthias Wessman>> Tech Support Prepress>>>>>> Fr?n:ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy> Svara till:>> Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48> Till:> ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) andInDesign CC> 2015.4>>>> On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund> wrote:>> Hi!>>>>>> I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I havedownloaded>> from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get thefollowing>> error message:>> "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.Default>> values will be used instead.">>>> I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with thisfile, but>> they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the coloursettings>> file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.>>>> I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have noproblem>> with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they areusing.>>>> Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this hasanything to>> do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?>>>> I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic designagency>> that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able tomake>> changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If Ican't get>> this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISOCoated>> v2 300% (ECI)?>>>> I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.>>>>>> This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a>> *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, becauseif>> the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings>> file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is>> sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.>>>> Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are>> two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up>> menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in>> the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel>> button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which>> makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe>> applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.>> So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the>> CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of thatCSF?>> What created it (application and version)?>>>> If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the>> working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug becausethis>> is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think>> the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't>> really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.>>>>>> -->> Chris Murphy>> _______________________________________________>> ECI-EN mailing list>>>>>>>> _______________________________________________> ECI-EN mailing list>>
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