Hi, 
Still leaves the question unanswered. Is it possible to include the profiles within the CSF to make it portable for installation. Otherwise there is no reason why the profiles characterisation data are in there?  
A portable CSF-file would be easier to distribute than a CSF + ICC-profile.
 


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Hi

Re the difference in the file size of a Adobe .csf, this is often to do
with the file size of the profiles within the Œcsf. For instance the
profiles produced using the highest quality settings in iProfiler are
around 8mb, which when saved in a .csf, will give a file size of 10mb!

So check the sizes of the CMYK profiles to see if they are different.

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Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 11:16:40 +0000
From: Tobias Trofast <tobias.trofast@liu.se>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
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Well,

If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?

Hello Adobe?

Best regards

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          2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)
    
    
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    Message: 1
    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
    From: "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca>
    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
     InDesign CC 2015.4
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    That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
    includes the ?name? of the profiles.
    
    
    
    Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
    
    
    
    / Roger Breton
    
    
    
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    [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of Matthias
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    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    2015.4
    
    
    
    Hi Chris,
    
    I was curious on your mention that:
    
    
    
    ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    
    makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    
    applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
    
    
    
    I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
    achive that?
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
    
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    ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
    2015.4
    
    
    
    On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund@hotmail.com
    <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:
    
    Hi!
    
    
    
    
    
    I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
    
    from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
    
    error message:
    
    "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
    
    values will be used instead."
    
    
    
    I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
    
    they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
    
    file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
    
    
    
    I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
    
    with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.
    
    
    
    Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
    
    do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
    
    
    
    I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
    
    that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make
    
    changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get
    
    this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
    
    v2 300% (ECI)?
    
    
    
    I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
    
    
    
    
    
    This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
    
    *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if
    
    the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
    
    file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
    
    sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
    
    
    
    Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
    
    two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
    
    menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
    
    the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
    
    button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    
    makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    
    applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
    
    So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
    
    CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?
    
    What created it (application and version)?
    
    
    
    If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
    
    working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this
    
    is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
    
    the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
    
    really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
    
    
    
    
    
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    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200
    From: Kamil Tresnak <kamil.tresnak@gmail.com>
    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
     InDesign CC 2015.4
    To: eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com
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    Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.
    
    Kamil
    
    On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton <graxx@videotron.ca>
wrote:
    > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
    > includes the ?name? of the profiles.
    >
    >
    >
    > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
    >
    >
    >
    > / Roger Breton
    >
    >
    >
    > From: eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com
    > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
Matthias
    > Wessman
    > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
    > To: eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com
    > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    > 2015.4
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi Chris,
    >
    > I was curious on your mention that:
    >
    >
    >
    > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    >
    > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    >
    > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
    >
    >
    >
    > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
    > achive that?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Matthias Wessman
    >
    > Tech Support Prepress
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Fr?n: <eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com> on behalf of Chris
Murphy
    > <lists@colorremedies.com>
    > Svara till: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"
    > <eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
    > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48
    > Till: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"
<eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
    > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    > 2015.4
    >
    >
    >
    > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund@hotmail.com>
    > wrote:
    >
    > Hi!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
    >
    > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
    >
    > error message:
    >
    > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
    >
    > values will be used instead."
    >
    >
    >
    > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
    >
    > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
    >
    > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
    >
    >
    >
    > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
    >
    > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
    >
    >
    >
    > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
    >
    > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
    >
    >
    >
    > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
    >
    > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
    >
    > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
    >
    > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
    >
    > v2 300% (ECI)?
    >
    >
    >
    > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
    >
    > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
    >
    > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
    >
    > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
    >
    > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
    >
    >
    >
    > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
    >
    > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
    >
    > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
    >
    > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
    >
    > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    >
    > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    >
    > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
    >
    > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
    >
    > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
    >
    > What created it (application and version)?
    >
    >
    >
    > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
    >
    > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
    >
    > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
    >
    > the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
    >
    > really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 16 Aug 2016 09:40:36 +0000
From: Axel Robert <axel.robert@ubisoft.com>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4
To: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com"
<eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
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Hello all!
I agree with Tobias.
Just change the extension name by txt and open it in Preview mode.
You will be able to see at the end bottom all the characterization data
in L*a*b* and XYZ.
In my opinion only the CMYK profiles are included?

Axel

Axel Robert | UBISOFT
Prepress quality manager

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Trofast <tobias.trofast@liu.se>
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<eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
Date: lundi 15 ao?t 2016 13:16
To: "eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com" <eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] ECI-EN Digest, Vol 75, Issue 4

Well,

If I save two different CSF-files, one refering AdobeRGB and PSO Coated
v3, the other refering AdobeRGB and WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 they end up
beeing different in file size.
The former 2.2 mb, the later 1.4mb. PSO Coated v3 istself is 2.2mb, while
WAN-IFRAnewspaper26v5 is 1.4 mb. To me this could be an indicator that
CMYK profiles are indeed included in the CSF-file, while RGB are not, but
i?s only a guess?

Hello Adobe?

Best regards

Tobias Trofast
Lecturer Graphic Production



ITN
SE-601 74 NORRK?PING
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          2015.4 (Kamil Tresnak)


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    Message: 1
    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 06:32:13 -0400
    From: "Roger Breton" <graxx@videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>>
    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
        InDesign CC   2015.4
    To:
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    Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"

    That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings File
only
    includes the ?name? of the profiles.



    Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.



    / Roger Breton



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    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    2015.4



    Hi Chris,

    I was curious on your mention that:



    ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which

    makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe

    applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?



    I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
    achive that?











    Matthias Wessman

    Tech Support Prepress





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    ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and InDesign
CC
    2015.4



    On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund@hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>
    <mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com> > wrote:

    Hi!





    I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded

    from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following

    error message:

    "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default

    values will be used instead."



    I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but

    they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings

    file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.



    I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem

    with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are using.



    Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to

    do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?



    I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency

    that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to make

    changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I can't
get

    this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated

    v2 300% (ECI)?



    I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.





    This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a

    *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because if

    the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings

    file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is

    sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.



    Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are

    two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up

    menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in

    the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel

    button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which

    makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe

    applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.

    So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the

    CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that CSF?

    What created it (application and version)?



    If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the

    working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because this

    is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think

    the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't

    really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.





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    Date: Mon, 15 Aug 2016 12:54:48 +0200
    From: Kamil Tresnak
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    Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
        InDesign CC   2015.4
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    Imho Chris get it confused with the embedding profiles to images.

    Kamil

    On Mon, Aug 15, 2016 at 12:32 PM, Roger Breton
<graxx@videotron.ca<mailto:graxx@videotron.ca>> wrote:
    > That?s not true, not in my experience. The Adobe Color Settings
File only
    > includes the ?name? of the profiles.
    >
    >
    >
    > Unless I?ve been missing something all that time.
    >
    >
    >
    > / Roger Breton
    >
    >
    >
    > From:
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software.com>
    > [mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com] On Behalf Of
Matthias
    > Wessman
    > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2016 3:57 AM
    > To:
eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>
    > Subject: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    > 2015.4
    >
    >
    >
    > Hi Chris,
    >
    > I was curious on your mention that:
    >
    >
    >
    > ?The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    >
    > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    >
    > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings?
    >
    >
    >
    > I never seen that but think that this would be very useful. How can
you
    > achive that?
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Matthias Wessman
    >
    > Tech Support Prepress
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > Fr?n:
<eci-en-bounces@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en-bounces@lists.calla
ssoftware.com>> on behalf of Chris Murphy
    > <lists@colorremedies.com<mailto:lists@colorremedies.com>>
    > Svara till:
"eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>"
    >
<eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>>
    > Datum: fredag 12 augusti 2016 17:48
    > Till:
"eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>"
<eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com<mailto:eci-en@lists.callassoftware.com>>
    > ?mne: Re: [ECI-EN] Problem with ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and
InDesign CC
    > 2015.4
    >
    >
    >
    > On Fri, Aug 12, 2016 at 9:28 AM, Louise Nylund
<louisenylund@hotmail.com<mailto:louisenylund@hotmail.com>>
    > wrote:
    >
    > Hi!
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > I have a problem with one ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) that I have
downloaded
    >
    > from the ECI website. When I try to load it in InDesign, I get the
following
    >
    > error message:
    >
    > "Some parameters in the colour settings file could not be used.
Default
    >
    > values will be used instead."
    >
    >
    >
    > I have asked Adobe, and they get the same error message with this
file, but
    >
    > they cannot tell my anything about what is wrong since the colour
settings
    >
    > file is a third party product. They suggested I ask ECI.
    >
    >
    >
    > I know a lot of people who use ISO Coated v2 300% (ECI) and have no
problem
    >
    > with it. But I do not know which versions of InDesign they are
using.
    >
    >
    >
    > Has anyone else here the same problem? Do you know if this has
anything to
    >
    > do with the latest update to InDesign (InDesign CC 2015.4)?
    >
    >
    >
    > I know this is an old colour settings file, but my graphic design
agency
    >
    > that I employ use it all the time, and I would like to be able to
make
    >
    > changes to their InDesign files and not mess anything up. If I
can't get
    >
    > this file to work, is there an updated file that corresponds to ISO
Coated
    >
    > v2 300% (ECI)?
    >
    >
    >
    > I would be most grateful if anyone has some input.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > This message is confusing because the "color settings file" i.e. a
    >
    > *.csf is an Adobe format. So there's a bug here somewhere, because
if
    >
    > the problem is with the ICC profile (which is not a color settings
    >
    > file) or with parsing that ICC profile, the error message is
    >
    > sufficiently misleading that it's incorrect.
    >
    >
    >
    > Exactly how are you loading this ICC profile in InDesign? There are
    >
    > two ways: choosing the ICC profile in the working spaces:cmyk pop-up
    >
    > menu, choosing an Adobe color settings file using the Load button in
    >
    > the Color settings dialog (the button that appears under the Cancel
    >
    > button). The CSF file can include ICC profiles embedded in it, which
    >
    > makes it portable for not only containing color settings for Adobe
    >
    > applications but also the ICC profiles referenced by those settings.
    >
    > So what I'm getting at is there might be a parsing problem with the
    >
    > CSF, in which case the question becomes what's the origin of that
CSF?
    >
    > What created it (application and version)?
    >
    >
    >
    > If the problem happens only when loading the ICC profile in the
    >
    > working spaces pop-up, it still sounds like an Adobe bug because
this
    >
    > is an ICC profile that's been around for a long time. I don't think
    >
    > the answer you've received is good enough, but then I also don't
    >
    > really understand the exact problem reproduce steps either.
    >
    >
    >
    >
    >
    > --
    >
    > Chris Murphy
    >
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