Dear Leonard,
finally, the ATS2 2013 is an existing product published and distributed by bvdm. As Olaf said (and I agree): Nothing is wrong with the files and
output settings. That’s why all existing files will remain untouched. The announced update is only dedicated to the new printing conditions. The related PDF/X-4 test form files will be generated with the 2013 settings.
Best regards,
Dieter
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As the 2013 files have “expected output” samples that are NOT THE ONLY valid output, and that the documentation that accompanies the suite as well as the marketing
message from the ECI and others, does not reflect this reality (which led to the substantial changes in Clause 11) - I continue to consider the 2013 suite invalid and unusable by the industry. And that message is the one maintained by Adobe verbally and
in our software implementation and which we also instruct our OEM vendors (though they are free to customize their implementations as they see fit).
At a minimum, (and as we have discussed for 3 years now), ECI should change their documentation and message to reflect that other outputs from the current suite
are acceptable as per PDF/X-4 and PDF 1.6. When that happens, I will be glad to publicly change my position.
Leonard Rosenthol
PDF Architect · Principal
Scientist | Adobe Systems Incorporated | p. 408.536.2433 | c. 215.808.4978 | leonardr@adobe.com
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Subject: Re: [PDFX-next] Altona Test Suite 2.0 Update (2016)
Hi Leonard,
as a very clear statement in my role as Chairman of the ECI (and one of the developers of the Altona Test Suite v2):
- there is **NOTHING** wrong with the PDF files in Altona Test Suite v2 (neither in the originally published version nor in this 2016 update)
- PDF 2.0 is neither (ISO internally) finalized nor published yet; thus there was no reason to even consider making it a PDF 2.0 conforming set of PDF files;
Altona Test Suite v2 is still based on PDF/X-4 (and by implication on PDF 1.6)
- in terms of expected rendering results of page content on the Technical page of Altona Test Suite v2 involving transparency on the background of the recently
(less than two months ago) updated clause “11. Transparency “ in the 3rd DIS of ISO 32000-2, the ECI members who have developed Altona Test Suite v2 have reason to assume that no adjustments in the test pages are or will become necessary
In case you disagree with any of this, please submit detailed bug reports and preferably specific test files that prove your point.
Thanks,
Olaf Drümmer
Chairman of the European Color Initiative (ECI)